Author Topic: How about U boats?  (Read 299 times)

Offline Shark88

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How about U boats?
« on: July 01, 2003, 05:21:19 PM »
AH2 should have U boats. To counter them the other ships would have mines (a must) and depth charges plus special aircraft.  If you dont agree with me on the subs what about the mines?  I think its a really good idea!

Offline wplantagenet

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Yes to U-Boats
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2003, 05:40:16 PM »
I was just thinking about this recently, and I definitely believe that we should have U-Boats available. U-Boats played a powerful role in WWII, and it would be a mistake to omit them from this game.

Having said that, I think it would be important that U-Boats be restricted to being launched only from Ports, and not be available to launch out of just any VH from any VB or AirField. Also, we would either need to limit the number of U-Boats per country, just as we limit numbers of Carrier Groups (per Port), or we would need to place a rather high Perk Cost to each U-Boat.

It would be absurd if we could launch 45 U-Boats and surround an enemy Carrier Group and obliterate it in under a minute. Some semblance of reality must be retained.

The one (two?) U-Boat(s) per Port sounds like a good plan. I'm not sure what the best way to navigate the submarines would be, however. Given the slow speed, using the map-guided navigation system we currently use for the CV Groups would probably best. However, when it comes to spawning to the submarine, and initiating torpedo launches, it would be important to have the ability to do normal manuevering, just like we use with the current ground vehicles.

Adding U-Boats also adds in a little extra complication from the standpoint of defense. Would a submarine set off the proximity warning on a CV if it were near enough? How would an attack on a submarine work, if you can't steer the cruiser/destroyer independently of the rest of the CV group? Could we use the PT Boats to launch depth charges?

Lots of questions to answer, before it could be implemented well.


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Offline Arlo

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How about U boats?
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2003, 05:44:41 PM »
All true.

 Civilians also played a huge role in WWII. And what's the real fun of being a u-boat kaptain if there isn't a passenger ship or two to torpedo now and again. And firebombing a city's just so much pyrotechnics if there aren't thousands of civilians running around on fire.

(Yes ... I actually DO like the submarine idea)_ ;)

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How about U boats?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2003, 05:47:29 PM »

Offline Arlo

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How about U boats?
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2003, 05:50:30 PM »
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Originally posted by brady
See this thread:


 http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=899295#post899295


No .. I don't see nuthin'. :D

Offline Shark88

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How about U boats?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2003, 12:01:58 PM »
What about mines and Depth charges for the carrier groups?

Mabey even a REAL radar system for the carrier groups.

Offline bfreek

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How about U boats?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2003, 06:55:47 PM »
this is what will happen to uboats,  

they will make em available.

no one will get a kill because the task force moves at 3 times the speed of the uboats,

they will make the uboats nuclear powered with rocket assist so to keep the idiots that wanted uboats happy in the game,

then everyone else will just continue to whine about the porked uboat modeling for the balance of the lifetime of this sim.

so forget about lame uboats , lame pts boats,

how about player controlled destroyers that can actually kill something at a shoreline base or even battleships as perk toy.

because this uboat idea just SUCKS unless there are 9 knot convoys to attack that supply the zones.


oh yeah , there are fast uboats late war but the pts are 2-2.5 times faster than  them and look at the ship kills they get ,,,,pathetic unless the pt guy is a kamakazi zombie.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2003, 06:58:22 PM by bfreek »

Offline Shadowsim

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U-boat
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2003, 04:17:59 AM »
battlefield 1943 its not, the fact we even posses a pt boat astonishes me,and a U boat....sheeesh whos gonna sail the thing? it takes a fleet so long to get across a map what about the uboat chasing it. two words guys....NO WAY.