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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2003, 10:25:49 AM »
Reports I hear say this guy was just oozing warning signs. Like when he showed for work a couple weeks ago with his KKK hat. He talked about killing blacks to others, and he had just gone through a nasty divorce.

Then the company puts him in a classroom with 4-5 black guys to take an ethics class....... that set him off.

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2003, 06:00:32 AM »
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shootings allmost allways happen in places where the shooter is convinced that all his victims will be unarmed.  
Actually, shootings occur only when there's a gun present. No gun = no shooting. Quite a simple concept, really. There's something wrong with American gun law when an individual such as the assailant is able to lay his hands on a shotgun and a semiautomatic rifle. Some have been quick to point out that a solution would have been for all others to be armed. A better solution would have been for no-one to be armed...

...and that's the viewpoint taken by the governments of unarmed societies. Things are not perfect here, and we lose about 50-100 people each year to shootings, but that's a damn sight better than losing thousands upon thousands.

Those who died in this incident can be cited as heroes, albeit posthumously. Their deaths were the price that must be paid for America to uphold the 2nd Amendment, and the citizens' right to bear arms. Only 5 dead? A small cost indeed - some would say a pittance.

I wonder how the bereaved relatives feel about that. :confused:


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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2003, 06:12:30 AM »
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Some have been quick to point out that a solution would have been for all others to be armed. A better solution would have been for no-one to be armed...


I´ts like WMD´s really, its not the WMD thats dangerous to the people of the world, its the person behind the WMD thats dangerous!

Conclousion : Let all countrys that have an "sane" leader have WMD´s.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2003, 08:23:21 AM »
beetle.. If you promise that everyone else will give up their firearms and play nice then I may give up mine... but probly not.

Point is... the place where the shooting took place was a "gun free zone"  just like schools are.   There were laws that protected all those guys that died... in the end...  it would have been better if someone would have been armed and stopped the guy.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2003, 08:56:44 AM »
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beetle.. If you promise that everyone else will give up their firearms and play nice then I may give up mine... but probly not.

Point is... the place where the shooting took place was a "gun free zone"  just like schools are.   There were laws that protected all those guys that died... in the end...  it would have been better if someone would have been armed and stopped the guy.
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The assailant himself should have been a gun free zone.

Fair comment about giving up firearms etc. At least now I can see why you feel safer in a rough bar in an even rougher part of London than you do inside your own residence in CA. Unfortunately, I don't think America can squeeze the post frontiersmen era toothpaste back into the tube. And you're always going to have crimes like this as a result. We had one in England once, back in 1986 - in Berkshire of all places. That's the county where I live.
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2003, 09:06:22 AM »
Yes if we ban all guns now such crimes will never happend, I mean if possesion of guns was illegal, nobody, and I mean nobody would dare break that law and acquire an illegal black market weapon if they wanted to murder a bunch of people - because, naturally, murderers are fine people with respect for laws...

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2003, 09:06:38 AM »
beetle.. you can't put the firearms genie back in the bottle.. they have been invented..  Hving your bobbies hide em in the trunk and pretend to not be wearing bullet proof vests is not my idea of a solution.  The guy that did the shooting ignored the fact that it was illegal to have a firearm at the workplace.  someone allway will ignore the law.

We have a big country.   It is spread out and it is bordered by a third world country.  We have porous borders and a legacy of Black against White.   I would change these things if I could but... I can't so I will do the next best thing and be armed.

I don't take englands view..  I don't thing a burglar deserves to live.  His rights stop when he breaks into my house...  the world is a better place for his death.... It is a much better place tho if he is simply afraid to break and enter.   Only the armed citizen can make that happen.
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2003, 09:08:14 AM »
"The assailant himself should have been a gun free zone. "

Maybe he should have been a hate free zone!  I bet the factory didnt have a single "This is a hate free zone" sign poted on the walls.  Maybe then he wouldnt have been a KKK type..

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2003, 09:09:46 AM »
Oh and beetle... about 90% of the gun crimes that happen in the U.S. don't bother me at all.   I really don't care what gang shoots what gang so long as they don't kill or wound too many "innocent" bystanters...  Sorta like the old iran iraq war... who cares who was winning.
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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2003, 11:02:35 AM »
Archie Bunker from All in the Family on Gun Control.

Gloria: 65% of the people murdered in the last ten years were killed by handguns!

Archie: Would it make you feel any better little girl if they was pushed outta windows?

http://www.wccta.net/gallery/driftysplace/abgun[1].wav

Well would it?

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2003, 12:37:52 PM »
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Oh and beetle... about 90% of the gun crimes that happen in the U.S. don't bother me at all.   I really don't care what gang shoots what gang so long as they don't kill or wound too many "innocent" bystanters...  Sorta like the old iran iraq war... who cares who was winning.
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Exactly... natural selection.  Just one less future welfare recipient.

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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2003, 12:58:19 PM »
Why the Fuc can I see beetle's posts! I checked he is still on ignore....


Oh well I will just add him again.


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