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Offline fd ski

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Hispano 20mm, too powerful?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 1999, 11:37:00 AM »
Pongo - historican doctrine for LW as far as fighting spits is conserned:
"one pass and get out"
 

Making a turn, not to mention a second turn, is begging for trouble...

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Also, spitfires can avoid you easier because they are vastly more manouverable then 51 is.


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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 1999, 11:41:00 AM »
But its so much fun to try!

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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 1999, 03:42:00 PM »
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the Hispano was an awesome weapon (when it worked) I agree
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I have a figure for Hispano's stoppage rate 1 for every 1500 rounds fired. It's from a book called:

British Aircraft Armamen Volume 2: RAF guns and gunsights from 1914 to the present day
R WAllace Clarke
ISBN 1-85260-402-6


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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 1999, 12:51:00 AM »
Pongo: buffs seems to go down easier with spits cannons than 190s 4x20mm...
I dont know do I have some more bonus on my gunnery in spit or is it just like 4x20mm those 2x20mm hispanos   (or more..)

Kier: Thats just what I mean exactly, with "low" ammo count it kills half dozen buffs and couple fighters for breakfast.

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Hispano 20mm, too powerful?
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 1999, 01:47:00 AM »
I have hit planes, seen one spark and to my suprise got the kill. Last night i hit a 109 full in the face from500 y to 75 y the guy flew on past me.  I was in a 190.  About 3 min later some one killed him and I got an asst. I think we have the same packet loss problem that we had in WB. If I make sure all other programs are off and keep relogging till I got a good connect, the guns work fine.

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Hispano 20mm, too powerful?
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 1999, 08:10:00 PM »
ummm, the Mg 151 fired a 115g or a 92g shell. The 115g shell was for fighters, and the 92g which was surprisingly the more powerful one, was used for bombers.

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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 1999, 08:35:00 PM »
If spitfires cannons aren't too good, then it must be me, I score kills like nothing in spitfire..
Just use 20-30 cannon rounds and I can say byebye for the soon exploding wreckage behind me going wild roll without wings (and ahh, I didnt even mention how many shots I missed).
Perhaps those balls velocity is 100% compatible with my organic aiming computer.

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 1999, 11:44:00 PM »
Fats, that sounds like a book I'd like to have  

Anyhow, I don't think the issue with the Hispano's were it's stoppage rate, it had to do with it's detinator.

You know, the USN tested the Hispano's because they wanted a 20mm for their a/c. The concluded that they were were to unreliable to be used. They also went on to say that the MG151/20 in every aspect is what the USN wishes.

Well, the Germans never gave them the 151/20's   So they stuck with the 50cals sacrifing performance for reliability.

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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 1999, 04:58:00 AM »
Kats:

The first volume has information more about bomber turrets, and the second volume about fighters.


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