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Offline INDN

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« on: May 11, 2001, 09:40:00 AM »
What I think would be a great addition to the damage model is the insturment panel go out. Electricity can go out and damage to the air powered ones could be blocked. The attitude indicator can just start to spin or airspeed drop to zero and so on. More aircraft failure is needed I think.

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2001, 09:51:00 AM »
I hope you don't mind if I add to this thread that we also need proper graphic representation when a wing is damaged as well, like bullet hole ridden wing tips rather than just a wingtip missing.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2001, 10:07:00 AM »
Yeah and more realistic drag computations for wing damage.  A plane shouldnt be faster with half a wing gone than without.  

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2001, 10:08:00 AM »
Could not agree more. Electrical short outs and also the abilty to put out fires in some way. Diving maybe? Don't know if this would work but hey  

Damaged surfaces would be great. If you shoot a wing then it's not just going to fall off. I think the Damage model needs to be worked on for the Next Version. This would help a lot and maybe even bring it above warbird standards. This would be amazing to do

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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2001, 10:21:00 AM »
I gotta agree. The old "it's busted or it ain't" approach is really old. Someone, I forget who, suggested a way to display the damage report different. Aileron shimmy, a sluggish rudder, shot-through flaps, etc... would appear as orange, black, purple, whatever color you want. Once something is destroyed it would show up as red like it does now. But this "10 hits=(aileron falls off)" stuff is getting old.


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Offline Zigrat

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2001, 10:22:00 AM »
i agree

right now things get shot off far too often, especially using .50calibers

if you ever watch gun camera footage you know how .50 calibers killed: FIRE.


IMO there isnt nearly enough fire in aces high, andtoo much shooting off wings.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2001, 10:47:00 AM »
I went into this on another thread concerning the fuel-leak induced fires..

Some aircraft were notorious for literally ripping themselves to pieces after the fuselage got bullet ridden.. Also the fire destroys lift area effectively.

Bullet ridden wings should effect in drag and loss of lift.. But the damage should be visible to the pilot or it can be very confusing in combat (cfs2..)

Offline popeye

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2001, 12:19:00 PM »
How about radio damage, where you lose ground controller info ( map and DAR ) and have to navigate home by the seat of yer pants?

 
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Offline stegor

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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2001, 12:34:00 PM »
And what you think of engine oil and coolant on windshield  in case of damage??  

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Offline LaVa

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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2001, 12:39:00 PM »
hydrolics...Leaks...

Wow! My controls are really gettting stiff here :0

Offline LePaul

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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2001, 12:39:00 PM »
If you do that, then I want blood splattered on the cockpit when pilot wounded.  



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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »
WOW lets see a 200+ meg file that's downloaded by a new guy on a crappy dial up like me handle all that eye candy. I want them working on new AC sow we can have a rps and even a HA. I also think game play is a bit more important then Bullet holes and flames slowing down the FPS.

Just one DWEEBS humble opinion.
I think AH has the best graphics around, of course not including Box sets.

(Wonder how the FPS would be in smoke with oil spraying on wind screen fire licking at the fluttering wingtip and smoke wisping up from under panel in a 35 plane furball over large field with 5 ostys firing at my 550mz K7 with 32meg geforce 2)

(would look good though  

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Offline INDN

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2001, 12:58:00 PM »
LaVa most of the WWII planes used cables havent researched it much but, P38 I believe was Hydrualic and maybe P47 others were cables. Will know soon cause people will advise us quickly.  

Offline INDN

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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2001, 01:16:00 PM »
Scooter my point is that there are alot more parts of an airplane then just the engine and flight controls. The eye candy is fine but also need more damage.

Heres some suggestions.

1 Trim tabs can be stuck full up or down
2 rudder stuck to one side
3 Ailerons froze
4 engine control stuck at setting it was hit at
5 compas shot out
6 attitude indicator spin around freely
7 airspeed stop working
8 fuel gauge stop showing fuel level

oil and fuel on windsheild would be nice and not take to much to add I dont think. These are just ideas to add to the game for a more realistic flight experience.

some more thing that dont show auntil you need them. landing gear wont come down all the way or one is stuck up and other is down. Can also do something like the gear is still there but the wheel it missing you wont know until you land or some one is close enough to tell you. Ammo does lost of weird things to airplanes 88's can do alot more.

For those that dont have fast connect speeds for the holes and damage graphics they can do the old double dowload again like the old hires pack. Those that want the damage graphics can download them those who dont get black holes for the damage.

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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2001, 01:19:00 PM »
re: Systems Damage

Damage and disabling air systems used to heat a cockpit and defog the windscreens would severely impact the ability of a pilot to fly and fight his airplane.  Damage to oxygen systems used to keep a pilot alive above 12,000 would not only present the challenge of staying conscious but would introduce a large fire risk should leaks develop in the enclosed cockpit.  

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