Author Topic: Condense trails & Ta 152  (Read 264 times)

Werewolf

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Condense trails & Ta 152
« on: September 16, 1999, 03:50:00 AM »
If there is smoke modeled it should be no problem to make condense trails. Especially the LW guys will love them.
No hiding B17s anymore.

If there is any possibility I ask for the Ta 152 to be modeled. I just read JG 301 / 302 "Wilde Sau" by W. Reschke. His squad got their hands on this birds and the reports they have written are astonishing.
Turnfighting with the Spit... No Problem, running away from Mustangs... no problem.
And please do not forget to put our squadsign on  

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Offline Sascha JG 77

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 1999, 04:20:00 AM »
Höhenjäger? YES!!

 


Include it in the "What if..?" or "SWOAH"-planeset together with
Me-262
Me-163
Bachem Natter
Pfeil
Gloster Meteor
Spit..errr..XXI,
Twin-Stang
P-61
etc.
The list goes on...

This is a serious suggestion BTW. I still remember the fun I had with SWOTL and I imagine that people would LOVE to fly in a "1946 over Germany/Japan" scenario with all these Überbirds.
A planeset like that would also be a pretty unique thing. Nobody has done a SWOTL online yet as far as I know.

I wouldn t label it "Top Priority" though. Let HTC model the "workhorses" first, then move on to the fancy stuff.

The biggest problem IMHO would be to find data on those birds (especially the exotic LW-stuff). But I think HTC are pretty good at educated guessing.  

Sascha JG 77 "Herz As!"

[This message has been edited by Sascha JG 77 (edited 09-16-1999).]

Starky

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 1999, 05:02:00 AM »

What I would like the most in the Ta 152 are the 2x20 mm AND 1x30mm (firing through spinner). Cannonpower of Dora and König together...

-Starky-

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 1999, 10:39:00 AM »
I guess if you get them, I get a B-29 with radar guided guns?

They had them, then started taking the guns off cause the B-29s flew higher and faster without em.

Give me the B-29 with the radar guided guns (SuperFortress "OTTO") and you get your TA-152.

So if the War Goes another Year, the B-29 Appears over the German Skies.

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Offline Sascha JG 77

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 1999, 10:55:00 AM »
Downtown: Radar guided guns where common throughout WW2: The B-25s, B-17s, Ju-88s, Betties all had them...

Ooops..my mistake..that's WB, not RL.  

Seriously: With auto-gunners, why would you need radar guided guns? I guess that any OTTO-code would be more accurate than the technology of the mid/late 40s.

Of course, if AH has an otto with human limitations built in (handing over targets from 1 gun position to another, affected by Gs, no laser sight built in,...) you could get your radar guided guns.
But like I said: That's only a suggestion for the future, I want the stuff that flew in large numbers before asking for the Überbirds.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 1999, 01:20:00 PM »
If you LW types get the TA-152 which was an outstanding aircraft, well you would tear the B-17s apart.

So I was saying that If you get the TA-152, then I should be able to fly the B-29.

The B-29 had radar guided guns, and they were apparently EXTREMELY effective against the Japanese.

But in very short order they discoverd that without most of the GUns the B-29 could fly Higher and Faster, and interception by Japanese Fighters rarely occured.  So they opted to go lightly armed.

I believe the TA-152 wouldn't have too much trouble getting up to the B-29.

So I would want the B-29 with the RADAR Guided, extremely effective defense guns to counter your 3 cannon armed TA-152.

The mounted the radar guided turret on the Front of the B-17 to make the HO Attack more costly.

SO I was adding the B-29 to the list of Aircraft for 1946.

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Grifon

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 1999, 02:16:00 PM »
if you boys get the TA 152

the allies should get the Tempest II (basically a Sea Fury without a hook..the MIG Killer!) the Supermarine Spiteful and Spit Mk 24, a Bearcat and the late WWII/Korea model P51s and P47s.

you thought Spit IX & XIVs and KI84s were crutches wait till you have to deal with the above.

wet your pants LW!

B29 improved Otto   HELP

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 1999, 05:22:00 PM »
You get the point Griffon.

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 1999, 05:22:00 PM »
You get the point Griffon.

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nastee

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 1999, 10:36:00 PM »
Sascha JG 77,
 you made the comment "what if " and "uberBirds" just so you know that the P-61 did see action in the war it was a night fighter as early as July 3,1944. It was used over europe and the pacific. the P-61 replaced the P-70 in all usaaf night fighter squadrons.
Specs. span 66ft.
length  49ft 7 in.
height 14ft 8 in.
weight 35,855 lbs. loaded
Armament: 4 50-cal. in upper turret and 4 20mm cannons in belly and up to 6,400 lbs of bombs
max speed 425 mph
crusing speed 275 mph
range 1,200 miles
it had radar in the nose and could find enemy aircraft in total darkness

I would love to have this plane in this sim
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 1999, 12:39:00 PM »
What was the twin mustang? F88?

I understand it was fast, but actually a sucky plane.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 1999, 02:05:00 PM »
F-82

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