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Offline oboe

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« on: July 21, 2003, 08:42:08 PM »
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I am finally working on a model I got for Christmas a couple years ago and am wondering about something I noticed.   The model is a Hasegawa P-47D Razorback.    Now, this particular model is a P-47D-10, and it came with 150 gal drop tank, and wing hardpoints for 2 500# bombs.

My question is why the difference between this and AH's D-11?
IIRC, our D-11 can take either a drop tank OR a single 500# on the centerline, with no wing hardpoints.

Can any of you P-47 guys enlighten me?

Also, how do you tell if your squad art is showing up on the fighters?   Squad art apparently doesn't show up in external view when playing offline, and it doesn't show up in any AH films I've made either.   I made a mod to some nose art and wanted to see what it looked like on the P-38, but I haven't found a way to do it.

Thanks for your help!

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2003, 09:37:59 PM »
Earlier Jug variants were field modified with the wing pylons as they became available, that is what your model was "modeled" with.  The AH -11 Jug is represented as it would have been when it first entered service in 43 (no wing hardpoints).  Can't help with the second question

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2003, 10:47:16 PM »
Chunder is basically right, however in the war, it would be a rare occurence to see a D10 with wing pylons.  The Jugs were pulling escort duty when  the D10 was active, not ground attack.

I am building that kit myself oboe.  Are you building Little Chief?  There are alot of good after market parts that really enhance that model if you arew so inclined.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2003, 12:54:46 AM »
Obeo, jump in a bomber like the B26 in the MA. Go in  external view and check if your nose art shows.
Dat jugs bro.

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2003, 06:58:44 AM »
Thanks, guys.

I hadn't decided which one yet - one possibility was duplicating the markings of AH's Razorback.   Hard to pass up Little Chief, though.   Good luck on yours!   I haven't built a model since I was
16 or so!     WHat kinds of extras can you buy?  I was kind of surprised no pilot figure came with the kit.  

The nose art mods did show up on the C-47 in external view online, but I was just wondering how they looked on the P-38.   I suppose the only way to do it is email the noseart file to one of my squad members, have them put it in their squads directory, and then fly alongside them?

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2003, 08:03:16 AM »
You can buy an aftermarket cockpit, canopy, wheels,  and flaps.  There are more than a few manufacturers fopr these items too.  Do a google search  for gtreat models webstore,  or just search for scale models.  You will find more than enough.  Aftermarket decals abound as well.  I am building Bob Johnson's "Lucky".

Have fun Oboe!
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2003, 09:45:30 AM »
Frog could you point me to this model on the net anywhere?

I like the idea of building a big model plane and i like the idea of after-market parts. where do we get these also?

have you any links to all this ?

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2003, 12:33:36 PM »
While in hangar goto f3 external view to see squad art on any plane or vehicle.

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2003, 01:49:36 PM »
How are you doing the "Lucky" and the extended finger on the cowling?
I was gonna hand paint it on mine, but I don't trust myself.
Looked into one of those printers that uses resin inks instead of water based inks, but even a used one is almost 300 bucks, so my "Lucky" project is on indefinite hold til I think this one through.

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2003, 07:25:27 PM »
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While in hangar goto f3 external view to see squad art on any plane or vehicle.


Thanks, Zanth, but this didn't work for me in any plane I tried, either online or offline.

I did go back online, select a C-47, hit FLY, go external on the runway and viewed the modified nose art.  However in the hangar, with F3 external view enabled, I can't see any squad art on the planes, no matter how I move the eye view around the plane or zoom in or out.   I can see where it SUPPOSED to be though - its just blank as if there is no nose art at all.

Appreciate the help though!    Any other ideas?

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2003, 06:48:10 AM »
Here's a question for you experienced model builders:

How do you paint the canopy frames?   This D-11 canopy has lots of frame.   Do you tape off one line at a time,  all at once, or paint it freehand?

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2003, 07:25:27 AM »
Hey all,

http://www.motag-online.com/

This is a german site. Its the best, i found so far.
choose the item ' Trickkiste' at the left. There are good describtions how to handle certain aspects when building a modell.

As my english is very limited, i am very happy finding the Babylon online translator. you can download lots of libraries, also about aviation. Its very easy to handle and can help a lot.
You can get it here:
http://www.babylon.com

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i like the idea of after-market parts. where do we get these also?

Maybe here you can find a bit:
http://www.eagle-editions.com/index.html

Ecke
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2003, 08:08:27 AM »
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How do you paint the canopy frames?


Here's a few methods I use:
1. With the canopy attached to the model,get some Bare Metal Foil (available at most hobby shops), and cover the entire canopy with it.  Use a toothpick, and or q-tip to burnish the foil onto the glass portion of the canopy. Use a very sharp #11 x-acto blade to trim the foil away from the canopy frames. Finish painting the model. Use a toothpick to peel the foil off of the glass portion. There will be some adhesive resedue on the glass. This can be removed with a modeling wax. Do this carefully as the wax can also remove some freshly applied paint.

2. If the canopy frames are well defined, use that #11 blade to scrape the gloss off the clear plastic of the frames. Paint can then be applied with a small brush, and will adhere and cover better then trying to paint gloss clear plastic. Small errors can be scraped off with a toothpic.

3. Lay a strip of electrical tape on a piece of glass. Paint this with the desired color. When dry, use a straight edge and a sharp blade, cut strips to the width of the canopy frames. Lay these over the top of the canopy frames. This is my least favorite method, but it works well for those models which have poorly defined, or non-existant canopy frames.

Enjoy :D

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2003, 11:28:56 AM »
oops you can see the plane but yeah evidently they are without the art - coulda sworn it used to be there...sorry for the bad tip.

But, here is how you really can do it....Training Arena has external views enabled.  I tested it and it works.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2003, 12:46:10 PM »
Thanks guys, great ideas about painting frames and thanks Zanth I'll try to Training Arena....