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Offline Grizzly

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« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2003, 12:57:26 PM »
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Hey there Grizz.....

Nope.. WU is involved in other things... Cars.. and such....
Can't remember the last time he flew.


Matter of fact.. for all I know he is bonking bunnies! ;)


Better bunneys than grizzlies  <=o[

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« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2003, 04:47:34 PM »
>>Right now, a base can be captured in 3 minutes or so when an organized effort is under way. This doesn't give any chance for the defenders to up and turn things around. In other words the advantage is with the attackers. <<

Bubba:
A base can be captured in such a short time usually when the intent is to milkrun. I submit it is a lot more difficult of a prospect when there is opposition. Defenders cannot up when 15 or so milkers decide to hit a base up in the far north or down in the south, where there are no nmez, or when nmez are otherwise occupied fighting. Yet, gameplay cannot be dictated to those who play the game in this way.
I agree totally with your point re: the advantage is with the attackers but....not always, and certainly with an able and spirited defense team.
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« Reply #197 on: August 01, 2003, 04:51:53 PM »
>>I don't drink<<

You should :D

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« Reply #198 on: August 01, 2003, 06:52:19 PM »
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I was just wondering if  ammo bunkers and fuel tanks in real WW2 fields could take as much bullets as they do in AH.



A lit cigarette was enough to blow an ammo or fuel dump sky high in real life.


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« Reply #199 on: August 01, 2003, 06:57:24 PM »
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Thanks again for all the input.  Remember, as a map-maker, I can't do anything but use more or less of the stuff already in the game.  I can't change the perk system, nor the underlying strat and capture systems.  Stuff I can do, however, might mimic some sorts of systemic changes.  This might not be a good idea in all cases, due to the game systems still working underneath as before and assuming everything on top is still the same, which might lead to some strange results.  But there are possibilities.  For example....

Faking a Change to the Perk System


Map-makers can approximate this by disabling late-war planes except at a couple of rear fields near HQ, like the 163 is now.  You'd still be able to fly late-war planes anywhere on the map, but you'd have to ferry them in from far away via rearm pads.  Then once you died, you'd have to do that again.  That would pretty much make using such planes for kamikazes impractical.  And if it didn't work out, it's easy to turn all planes on again.  An additional benefit would be a great reduction in the numbers of nikis and lamer7s seen :).


That would be a good idea for buffs, since I don't recall too many bombers being stationed on front line bases. But trying to do that to fighters so you can attempt to limit one flies, IMO is not a good idea.  While you're trying to decrease the usage of the Big Four late war planes (N1K2, La7, Spitfire Mk IX and P-51D) you're in effect also punishing the ones that fly those other 'less' glamerous late war planes.  Frankly, I have no desire to fly any other fighter than the P-38 nor do I have any desire to fly 5+ sectors just to find a fight because people are whining about the late war planes.  Which would eventually lead me to have no desire to fly in AH.

With the current plane set as it is, there's no real alternative for me since there aren't any early war P-38s in the plane set.

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« Reply #200 on: August 01, 2003, 07:04:34 PM »
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bullethead..  why the sham?  I mean, if you don't want opinions that differ from yours then why pretend to?   Are you saying that if you don't draw a map then you have no right to an opinion about the maps you pay to play?
lazs



Maybe he's trying to tell you that if you can do a better job and actually have something worthwhile to contribute other than your endless whines, by all means step up to the plate.

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« Reply #201 on: August 02, 2003, 09:25:38 AM »
so ack ack... where is your map?  Are your opinions more valuable than mine?  What I was saying was that it appears that the map makers want gameplay to go only one direction.   any suggestion that appears to further that cause is considered brilliant by the mapmakers.   Any suggestin that furthers gameplay for the action/furballers is looked at as a whine.    

If I did a map I would certainly expect that I would get negative comments.     Listening to the yes men and people with the same agenda is pointless.  

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« Reply #202 on: August 02, 2003, 10:02:03 AM »
your opinion was interesting 8 months ago, you've said nothing new since then. Time to make your own map or stfu.

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« Reply #203 on: August 02, 2003, 12:19:14 PM »
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so ack ack... where is your map?  Are your opinions more valuable than mine?  What I was saying was that it appears that the map makers want gameplay to go only one direction.   any suggestion that appears to further that cause is considered brilliant by the mapmakers.   Any suggestin that furthers gameplay for the action/furballers is looked at as a whine.    

If I did a map I would certainly expect that I would get negative comments.     Listening to the yes men and people with the same agenda is pointless.  

lazs


BH threw the gauntlet down at your feet, not mine.  

BH came in here with the honest attempt at gathering player opinions so he could better create a map that would appeal to the broadest range of players.  All you've done is try to pass off your whines as opinions.  You did the same thing with NB in a thread he posted about the revised Trinity map he had been working on.  In fact, it just looked like you copied and pasted your whines from that thread to this one.



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« Reply #204 on: August 03, 2003, 08:44:15 AM »
nothing has changed in 8 months if that is the criteria for putting forth a suggestion.   maps have been made but they are worse than the small ones that HTC made.   every new map is exactly the same with a different terrain.... with the exception of a "tank town" so that GV guys can have fun.   All the suggestions here are old rehashes... not one new idea in the whole group.

Any new idea that promotes action and fun and it is deemed impossible.. such as, area arena (much like tank town) for early, mid and late war planes... But if the new idea is mind numbing, boring "strat" it is greeted with a whole slew of wet pantied oohs and ahhs by the "make the fields 2 sectors apart so that everyone I bounce will be lulled into snoozing" crowd.  

The sky accountants ruined WB's they are working on ruining AH.

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