Author Topic: Pizza still sucks.. guess I'll visit the MA come next Friday. (Read 1136 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2003, 09:44:19 AM »

nothing fair about a week of pizza and a couple of hours each for the small maps. Infinity too a whole week of that one.

ecke.. I know you are trying to be fair and serious but really... How can you not avoid furballs on the small maps? I guess you and I have different ideas of what a furball is because on the small maps it allways looks to me like most of the areas are desserted.
lazs

AHGOD · « **Reply #16 on:** July 26, 2003, 10:25:10 AM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
ROFL! Who is that AHGOD guy?

I agree with ecke-109, although Pizza is my favourite map. I know it's hard on the eyes sometimes, and I've had to modify my colours, but you get high alt fields - great for launching P47, where it excels. LA7 is not the pest it normally is at the lower alts. Plenty of GV battles - more than on any other map - but also fights and field captures.

A modest person from what I know. Who will fly the 202 against anyone and still have fun.

A_Clown · « **Reply #17 on:** July 26, 2003, 10:29:01 AM »

Ummm, Whats yer Vector, Victor?
Roger Over

JoeBWan17 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2003, 08:36:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Seven Maps.

Four of them, the small ones, are up for a total of one week, rotating through the four during that week. Being overly generous, let's say the average small map gets two days of play per month.

The three large ones are up for a solid week each.

Thats "as fair as it possibly can be"? Well, I guess it is if your personal bias allows you to insult the small maps with the "children's map" label.

It would seem that perhaps a 28 day rotation with each map up for 4 straight days or even a 35 day rotation with each map getting 5 straight days would be more fair.

Except of course for those that really don't want it to be "fair".

I realize I'm by no means an experienced player, but it seems like a week of small maps, and a week of a large map is about as fair as it gets. People complain that the small maps don't have room for the large number of people who get on during prime time, and others complain that the large maps lead to timid playing and lack of furballs.

In your "fair" scenario the large maps would get less playing time then they do now. It would be 3/7 large maps and 4/7 small ones if I understand what you are saying.

JoeBWan
VF-17 "The Jolly Rogers"

JoeBWan17 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2003, 08:40:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Seven Maps.
Being overly generous, let's say the average small map gets two days of play per month.

Also my math might be wrong here, but in a given month we have 2 weeks of small maps right? That would be 14 days.

14(days)/4(maps) = 3.5 days average for small map in a given month. Of course it depends on how quickly they get reset, some may last longer than others.

JoeBWan
VF-17 "Jolly Rogers"

lazs2 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2003, 08:42:51 AM »

joe.. there are two large maps not one and... the small maps are all different.. most people like some small maps over others... their favorite small map doesn't get equal time. Every map should get equal time to be fair. change em every day.
lazs

Ecke-109- · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2003, 09:47:09 AM »

Lasz,

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I guess you and I have different ideas of what a furball is because on the small maps it allways looks to me like most of the areas are desserted.

They look desserted to you?
Whenever i log in at US prime time, there are at least 300+ online.
And on the small maps, that is really a lot, imo.

I dont care flying 25-30 mls for a nice 1vs1 fight. But whenever i find one or two enemies to fight against, i know for shure, it only needs 1 min or less, to be surrounded by a whole bunch of them.

I love to fly the lone wolf thing and i enjoy participating in small, maybe sneaky, missions. And this is hard to realize on the overcrowded small maps.

I guess, you also noticed that 'ant trail syndrome' on the small maps?
Especially the islands map and the baltic map comes to my mind. And also the map with the heart shaped sea in the middle.
Why are there ant trails? Because at lots of the fields close to the borderline the fuel has been bombed down. And all players are upping from the few fields which have enough fuel AND are close enough to enemy bases without flying at least two sectors or more.
Thats why i prefer the bigger maps. They offer a greater range of opportunities how to play the game.

Ecke

Rude · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2003, 10:01:45 AM »

Actually, aren't there three large maps now...Big Isles, Pizza and the revised Beta?

I guess this map making is hard to do in a way that all styles of gameplay are fed....I just deal with it the best I can.

It's a good thing I don't own this chicken ranch or I'de be killin chickens(only the sick ones of course)

Toad · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2003, 10:49:34 AM »

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New Terrain Rotation
We have changed the rotation system for the terrains.

Each Friday we will reset to a new terrain as we have been doing, but when we hit the small terrains, we will have all 4 of the current terrains in auto-rotation.
After a week of the small terrains, we will reset to the large terrains, which will stay up one week at a time.

Here is the scheme:

Small Terrains for one week: Baltic, Ndisles, Mindinao, Sfma
Large Terrain for one week: Trinity
Large Terrain for one week: BigIsles
Large Terrain for one week: AKDesert

This way allows all terrains to be rotated through in one month rather than the 7 weeks we were doing.

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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
skuzzy@hitechcreations.com

JoeBWan, looks like one week of all the small maps combined to me and Skuzzy.

Rutilant · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:26:37 AM »

New Terrain Rotation
We have changed the rotation system for the terrains.

Each Friday we will reset to a new terrain as we have been doing, but when we hit the small terrains, we will have all 4 of the current terrains in auto-rotation.
After a week of the small terrains, we will reset to the large terrains, which will stay up one week at a time.

Here is the scheme:

Small Terrains for one week: Baltic, Ndisles, Mindinao, Sfma
Large Terrain for one week: Trinity
Large Terrain for one week: BigIsles
Large Terrain for one week: AKDesert

This way allows all terrains to be rotated through in one month rather than the 7 weeks we were doing.

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Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
skuzzy@hitechcreations.com

Sounds fair to me.. and reasonable.

Toad · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:32:27 AM »

Obviously, 2 days of each small map is fair and reasonable when each big map gets 7 days.

If you look at it with "big map bias" and don't allow conflicting opinions from other paying players to bother you.

JoeBWan17 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:35:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
JoeBWan, looks like one week of all the small maps combined to me and Skuzzy.

I apologize Toad, I completly misread the map rotation. I thought it was 1 week of rotating small maps, then 1 big map, and then back to rotating small maps. Thank you for clearing it up for me.

JoeBWan
VF-17 "The Jolly Rogers"

Steve · « **Reply #27 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:36:40 AM »

Rutilant · « **Reply #28 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:49:12 AM »

Considering the big maps werent made with a goal of being reset in 2-3 days, i think it's perfectly reasonable.

Toad · « **Reply #29 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:59:53 AM »

AFAIK, none of the maps were made with any sort of "days till reset" goal with the possible exception of Trinity.

You'll find this hard to believe, but there are actually other paying customers that would prefer playing a week of Mindinao or Ndisles to a week of AKdesert.

But, hey... that's not fair, is it?