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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2003, 08:49:25 PM »
Curval, report him to the authorities and let Bubba in jail teach him a lesson.
A thief is a thief and he damn well learnt it from you kill stealing swindler :mad:

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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2003, 08:56:51 PM »
Me and my mates used to do shoplifting pretty much few years ago... (im still teenager.)
My parents never found it out, but important thing is that I realized myself what i was doing and never did/will do it again. And thats something im proud of.


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about her dad and his attitude about money. Seems he had instilled in them the notion that if a merchant forgets to charge for a good or a service, then its ok to keep the free item/service, the opinion being that hey, it was the merchant's fault so they should eat the cost of their mistake.


It pretty much depends how much money we're talking about. Couple times at hamburger place they brought me new meal since i just bought one, I took it and didnt feel bad, they have enough food :D

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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2003, 09:31:57 PM »
l,ololololol

vulcan   funny aasss shet


We used to jumpin the Jelly Belly Factory Dumpster in Fairfield,CA....

omg sooo much candy,,( what was it doin in garbage..we dont know..lollol)..we would bring it to school and sell it...then go buy 1.8ths of high grade humbolt.....awww junior high...


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« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2003, 09:32:58 PM »
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Couldn't the same effect be produced by just explaining to the kids why shoplifting is wrong? Especially if the kid is over 10 years old.


I don't think so. curvals way teachs the kid not only that it's wrong but that there will be consiquences, and dad won't let you hide behind him.

just discusing it teaches him that 'stealing is wrong' is just something we talk about, without any real downside.  besides that if a kid has made it to 10 and not figured out that stealing is wrong, then you are a ways beyond just a talk.

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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2003, 09:46:44 PM »
Sweet jebus, all these 'learnt lessons', and you still pay taxes?
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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2003, 10:28:26 PM »
Hey Curval, sounds like a good idea.  Depending on the age of the child, they don't always realise the severity of what they did.

You might also consider having a Police Officer present, no only will it reinforce the severity, but you can also get a tour of a Police Station, and combine the lesson of severity with a lessons in civics.

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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2003, 11:42:33 PM »
I remember some time ago when I was broke. Went to the liquor store and bought a couple beers and paid with a 5 - got change for a 50. I left the store, thought about it and then went back in and returned the change.

I was still broke, but felt way better about myself after that. Proud of my integrity ever since.

(Man that WAS a long time ago)

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2003, 05:17:28 AM »
Oh boy! i or my mom do not belong in this thread lol!!! My mom would be like "good boy" your finally growing up...

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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2003, 09:49:40 AM »
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Couldn't the same effect be produced by just explaining to the kids why shoplifting is wrong?  Especially if the kid is over 10 years old.

I think it would work.  Scaring the kid might work for a week or two, but if he knows the reasoning behind it, it would prevent it from happening again.



shows how much you know...it wouldent work at all...especially if the kids over 10 we just tune you out sit there and nod when you start lecturing us...scare tactics work if they know what they did...it doesnt work if you just start bashing em...

never had anything like that happen to me (worst i did was get a extra 2 handfulls of candy from a broken machine) but thats just because my older sister scared the **** out of with about it nice and early...

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2003, 10:03:51 AM »
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the thing is that you wife probably didn't even realize she was stealing until it was pointed out to her


Yep.  And she's not the only normally-good person I've found doing the same thing.

My officemate once had a coupon for $200 off a new PC that expired on December 31.  On January 1, the price for the particular PC he wanted came down to a point he could afford.  He went to the store to buy it and presented the expired coupon.  Not only did he get the new lower regular price, but the cashier mistakenly gave him the $200 off, too.  He came back to the office bragging about how great a deal he got from the scam.

All I could say was "Yeah, you got a heckuva deal, John.  By the way, how are your two little girls coming along?"  I don't know if he took the hint about being a role model or not, but I didn't press the matter further.

As I mentioned earlier, I would've forgotten all about the CART shirt incident if my wife hadn't recently been thinking about her parents and how messed up they were on certain things, particularly how her dad is fixated on money and keeping it any way he can and how her mom is always threatening to leave him but never does because she doesn't have any money of her own (she turns her social security over to him to manage the household finances).

Recently her dad was out at a new mall and picked up a lamp at Bombay Company on clearance because it had a damaged leg.  He picked it up for 60% off regular price.  A little while later he was out shopping at his usual mall and stopped in to talk to the store manager, who knows him because he's always in the mall walking around.  My wife's dad mentioned that he had a lamp that was damaged and asked if the manager would let him exchange it for a new one.  The manager, not knowing the lamp had been discounted because of the damage, accepted the exchange and my father-in-law got a brand new lamp.

When my mother in law related this story to my wife, she immediately saw it was a scam, but also knew that her father was proud of his "shrewd business transaction".  It was this incident that prompted her to remember the CART shirt moment when I adjusted her moral compass to True North.

Is it any wonder then, that corporations are having ethics problems?

I recently read a scam whereby MCI was re-directing calls intended for rural areas where telephone service is expensive to provide.  MCI was sending the calls into Canada, then re-directing them back into the US where AT&T would absorb the cost of the call as a longdistance charge.  MCI was passing its business costs onto its competitor.  "Shrewd business transactions" at its corporate best.

AT&T never would've known about the scam if a district attorney hadn't alerted them to it.

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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2003, 12:10:21 PM »
I did the same thing when I was a kid, never stole anything again until I was CEO of Enron....  then I got away with it.
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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2003, 12:29:19 PM »
When I realised my kid was doing shoplifting, I trained him to lift Pr0n for me. Afterall, he's under the legal age to get in trouble.

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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2003, 02:25:23 PM »
I never shoplifted anything, but I remember getting caught letting the air out of my mom's friend's tires. :)