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Offline fscott

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A little perspective on new pricing?
« on: October 24, 2000, 11:14:00 PM »
HT and team want to see if they can keep would-be subscribers with lower pricing of $19.95. Does this lower price make a difference? Are they leaving after 2 weeks to go play WB or AW3 for less money? Will they now re-open an account since they can play UNLIMITED time for $19.95?  

The logic is easy to understand.  You can have it either two ways. A few players paying higher price, or lots of players paying low price.  That is their aim.  Now please let them do their job.

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Offline Maverick

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A little perspective on new pricing?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2000, 11:50:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by fscott:
HT and team want to see if they can keep would-be subscribers with lower pricing of $19.95. Does this lower price make a difference? Are they leaving after 2 weeks to go play WB or AW3 for less money? Will they now re-open an account since they can play UNLIMITED time for $19.95?  

The logic is easy to understand.  You can have it either two ways. A few players paying higher price, or lots of players paying low price.  That is their aim.  Now please let them do their job.

fscott

The logic is fine and easy to understand. The methodology to determine their goal is flawed and unnecessarily antagonistic.

Goal one. Find a profitable price that players are willing to pay.  No problem here. Market research (competitors) and the base numbers they already have for operating expenses give them part of the data they want.

Goal two. Would a lower price bring in new members. Likely but unknown until they poll those leaving the game after the intro period. Solution? Poll outgoing players as a matter of course. Those that respond are likely to give valid data as they have nothing to gain by giving false responses. Questions based on a selection of rates would give an idea. Using separate exit polls with different rates listed would help narrow down a "comfort level" of pricing.

Example: 20 exit polls go out with "suggested prices of $10.00 - $15.00 - $20.00. Another set of 20 go out to different players with prices listed as $12.50 - $17.50 - $28.50. Another set go out asking about prices of $15.00 - $25.00 - $35.00.

If you wanted to give an incentive to get the survey you could offer a $5.00 gift certificate to some online buying service or online bookstore. The certificate to be received after the survey is completed. The incentive is not a "bribe" for a nonpaying customer to become a paying customer, but a thank you for their help. Since it is not tied directly to the service being offered it won't taint the survey nearly as much as offering one third off the price of the service in perpetuity.

The same surveys could be given to the current paying customers. Now think about it. Would anyone really complain if the price went down?

Goal three. Avoid a multilevel pricing situation. Oops, blew that one this time. A multi pricing situation has just been created. Current paying customers who have been loyal to the vendor have just been told their opinion isn't worth anything as they weren't even surveyed. Their loyalty is counted on to overcome the price differential of the two memberships.

As I said, the goal of determining a fair and equitable price is not the issue. The methodology is.

Customers have a reasonable expectation of paying the same fee for the same service as everyone else does. Seeing customers getting preferential treatment is not likely to make the other non preferred customers happy. As a customer, I do not have to like the tactics employed. I do not feel that expressing my displeasure toward a vendor providing a service I am paying for is unwarranted if there is a difference in prices for various customers for the same service.

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A little perspective on new pricing?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2000, 12:08:00 AM »
It's not quite that simple Mav.  Polls don't really tell them what they need to know.

What they are trying to figure out is whether enough people who WON'T join at $29.95/mo WILL join at $19.95/mo to make up for the loss in revenue from moving the current subscriber base from 30 to 20 bucks a month.  You can poll people all they want, but if it involves money, that's shaky ground.

What they have done is create a way to know for sure.  If people come back, then you know they came back because it's $10 cheaper.  But if only 5 out of 100 come back at $20, you know you can't do it overall, because that extra 5% of (formerly non-) users won't make up for the loss of revenue when you move your full player base to $20.

They are TRYING to give you guys a better price.  The reason things like this aren't announced, is because you don't know if they will work out in the end, and if they don't, you'll just have raised people's expectations for nothing, and caused unnecessary resentment.  If it did work out, then everybody gets the new rate, obviously.  That's the point of it, after all.

Let it play out and see where it goes before you curse them to death.

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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2000, 12:54:00 AM »
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The value of an object is the price that object will bring.

Whats it worth to me?

As an experienced simmer; a long time flight sim addict with exceptionally high demands for realism; accuracy and skilled adversarys and also as one who clearly remembers the grim days of flight sim bills that looked like mortgatge payments..

Then I get six months of flying FREE the best sim I'd seen yet.

---$39.95 a week woulda been a godsend!---

"At last; I can EAT FOOD again! The cat need not forage in the wilds for our supper any longer.."

And, miffed puppies, pinko Mao enthusiasts and tightwads aside; since when did it become un-american to make a profit?

10 bucks got yer panties inna bunch? Dammo.. I pity your waitress. Or do you begrudge the developers of a product you spend more face-time with than your wife or family the price of a decent tip for crummy service in a half-assed restraunt?

So tell us; tell AGW, tell the world about how these nasty salamanders at this evil game company set out to screw its customer base, and as pennance, they must forwith reduce my rate and all rates ....... !!! Damn.. go join the tree huggers, fer gawdsakes. The twit mouse needs protection; not US.

Hind tit suckin whiners. Begone with yah!

Hang

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