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Offline BBinder

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« on: July 28, 2003, 07:50:44 AM »
i think it be cool to have engine stalls

say like when ur on runway u start ur engine and it'll decide to stall

also have egine stalls in flight

Offline AKWeav

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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2003, 07:56:28 AM »
I'll pass on that one, but you can always just hit "E" when you think it's time for one.:)

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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2003, 10:18:30 AM »
engine stalls eh? well just get a friend like mine who likes to come over and push random buttons while your flying and then you can have random engine stalls.

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2003, 10:39:14 AM »
This is an interesting idea.  Yes, it has been mentioned before, but perhaps it could be modified just a bit.  I don't think there should be random failures in the Main Arena (MA).  The MA is not the slightest bit about realism (in terms of recreating WW2).  It is about a no-holds barred team free-for-all.  As AH2 is developed, it seems as if the MA will be for the fun and practice of what is to come in the Mission Arena (MisA).

Now, the MisA seems to be about recreating the feel of WW2 and the missions/battles that occurred during the war (i.e. bomber raids on Berlin, carrier battles in the Central Pacific, etc.).  If there was an arena setting that would enable random failures in one arena but allow them to be disabled in another, I would be all for it.  Failures of non-critical systems would be cool.

To be clear, let me use the F6F-5 as an example (only because I know more about it than other planes in the game).  Failures of certain systems that are non-critical, but could affect how you fight could include:

1)  Failure of WEP
2)  Failure of supercharger to shift into high blower - reduced hi-alt performance
3)  Gun jams
4)  tail hook failure (may have to add the barracades to the decks of the CV's)
5)  gunsight failure (no sight image)
6)  instead of engine failures, maybe some kind of reduced performance of the engine or "rough" running engine.

Anything along those lines that will not keep the plane from fighting but could or can change the way it is fought and allow the pilot to return to base.  Keep in mind, this is completely seperate from any kind of battle damage (i.e. damage could kill the engine whereas a random event would not)

Again, this could be something that could add to the realism of the MisA without keeping someone from actually flying or taking part (as an outright engine failure would be).  When it comes to the MA, though, I think it would be an incredibly bad decision to implement something like this there.

Oh well, just my thoughts on this topic.  Take it for what its worth (not much, I'm sure).

-math

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2003, 01:27:47 PM »
Does AH model engine damage from extended inverted flight?


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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2003, 06:18:51 PM »
No.

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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2003, 07:28:57 PM »
Failure of throttle systems.. <- this one is in FB.

 Get hit in the wrong place, and your throttle doesn't respond, jammed and stuck. Makes those emergency landings really interesting..

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2003, 09:19:46 PM »
It would be nice to see degradation of engine (or other systems) due to damage. Right now things either work or they are dead - there is no middle ground.

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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2003, 10:34:23 PM »
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Lord Flasheart:
You should treat your aircraft like you treat your woman!

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So you should take your plane out to dinner and a movie?

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No, get in her 5 times a day and take her to heaven and back!
 


That was some of the funniest crap I have ever seen.  Black Adder was Rowan Atkinson's greatest stuff IMO.

I liked the Queen Elizabeth one too (Black Adder II I believe).  Haven't seen any of the first series though.

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2003, 10:58:01 PM »
Since it's not modeled in the current AH, I think at the least in AH2 there should be engine damage from prolonged inverted flight.  


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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2003, 12:52:41 AM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Since it's not modeled in the current AH, I think at the least in AH2 there should be engine damage from prolonged inverted flight.  


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Surely not all engines would take damage? (I'm guessing you mean the oil system is less effective?)
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2003, 01:36:05 AM »
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Failure of throttle systems.. <- this one is in FB.

 Get hit in the wrong place, and your throttle doesn't respond, jammed and stuck. Makes those emergency landings really interesting..


I already have that !

saitek stick are the suck !

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2003, 02:23:08 AM »
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Surely not all engines would take damage? (I'm guessing you mean the oil system is less effective?)



Only the planes that didn't have any type of inverted oil system.  Planes without those would lose oil pressure and damage the engine if inverted too long.


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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2003, 08:20:22 AM »
Interesting. How would this affect radial engines, and the DB which was an inverted V?
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2003, 02:26:56 PM »
Good question and I really don't know the answer.  



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