M1 Carbine

[capt. apathy]

they all are .30 cal, it's only the size of the casing and the combustion chamber that varies.  for the most part you can freely interchange projectiles from one round to another.

the exception being NEVER load spire-point projectiles on a 30/30 case.

[Dune]

At least not one with a tubular magazine  

[miko2d]

dolf vader: m14 and m1 garand both use 3.08 caliber rounds of about the same weight.
... almost exactly the same balistics. ...slightly more propelent capacity in the .308.

 .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO) case capacily is considerably smaller than a 30-06 Springfield case - by 20%.

.308: 2.8 inches long, holds 54 grains of water
30-06: 3.34 inches long, holds 69 grains of water

 The military were able to use a smaller cartrige and achieve similar ballistics in M14 with .308 as in M1 Garand with 30-06 due to the advances made in the propellant since 30-06 was introduced.

 Obviously, you can stuff a 30-06 case full of the modern powder and if your chamber handles the pressure, you get much more performance then you get from .308.



 About shooting the semi-auto rifles in full-auto mode - one can use a "burp-fire" technique to do that, though the accuracy would suffer a lot...

 miko

[culero]

Originally posted by john9001
M1 thumb
when the bolt on a empty M1 Garand (as on most semi-autos) is pulled to the rear it will lock in the open position,
 To release/close the bolt on a enpty M1, (after inspection/cleaning), the normal method is to place the edge of the right hand on the bolt operating handle and move the bolt slightly to the rear at the same time putting the right thumb in the magazine well to depress the spring follower to release the bolt lock.
Then wile holding the follower down you let the bolt come forward, if you don't get your thumb out of the magazine in time the bolt will smash it into the back of the chamber, and you will have a "M1 thumb".
most Marines learn fairly quickly and only get caught once or twice.

USMC
62-65

Nice to hear from someone else who knows

culero

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by Tarmac
Looks to me like they lost semi-autos and handguns.

Pump shotguns and bolt-action rifles are (I hope) still ok.  

That's how I read it, at least.

Bolt action rifles are OK, if you have a licence, and a signature from a property owner stating you can shoot on his/her property.
Lever action is out.
Shotguns are OK too, but not the pump action or semi-auto variety. Over and under/side by side double barrel, single barrel/single shot or single barrel bolt action are it for shotguns.
Handguns of any form are out.

And yeah, we did lobby pretty hard to keep 'em, because as someone mentioned, these are tools out here, not toys.
The bit about bolt actions being OK with permission from landowners is about as far as that argument got us.

A bloke named Martin Bryant ran amok with an SKS in Tasmania, at a place called Port Arthur a few years back, killing 30 odd people, including several women and kids ,the reaction from the Govt was immediate and brutal......everybody lost their guns.

[Slash27]

That stinks Blue.






.308 Winchester (7.62x39)   7.62x39 is not .308, it is the round for the AK-47 and SKS.  7.62x51 is .308 or 7.62 NATO

[Bluedog]

I agree, it stinks.
Should have been the opposite way around and made it mandatory to carry in my opinion, but apparently I'm in the minority.

[Mini D]

OK... from left to right: .50 cal, 7mm STW, 30/06, .308, .223

[lazs2]

If you cut off the necked down portion of the .223 in the photo and seated a .308 round nose slug of about 100 grains you would have a 30 carbine round (approx)  for size comparisson.
lazs