Some Squad Pix...

[2Hawks]

Hey I just uploaded some new pix to the Pigs on the Wing Website:

Pigs website:
Pigs on the wing website:


Image Location (Our Boards)
Pigs on the Wing Message Boards

[XtrmeJ]

Nice

[Sandman]

Hmmm... not to be the wet rag, but I don't believe that this belongs to you.

I believe it belongs to the Flying Pigs.


Of course... I could be wrong.

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Hmmm... not to be the wet rag, but I don't believe that this belongs to you.

I believe it belongs to the Flying Pigs.


Of course... I could be wrong.

Most Curious, and My Apologies... I will have a word with the appropriate source of the mis-taken appropriation.

[Sandman]

No apology necessary... I'm not a pig.





...but a couple of them fly with us and the Zoo.

[Frodo]

2Hawks you guys need to take care of this.It is a copyrighted image.and the picture in the link below is not a good idea or form.

http://www.cafeshops.com/pigsonthewing.6925145

Frodo

[Smut]

Originally posted by 2Hawks
Most Curious, and My Apologies... I will have a word with the appropriate source of the mis-taken appropriation.

Thanks for looking into this. The artwork in question is copyrighted, and was commissioned by a member of the Flying Pigs back in 1998. We're not trying to be hard tulips over this, just protecting a copyright.

Thanks.

-Smut

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Frodo
2Hawks you guys need to take care of this.It is a copyrighted image.and the picture in the link below is not a good idea or form.

http://www.cafeshops.com/pigsonthewing.6925145

Frodo

Already brought up in another post, however if you would be inclined to provide a little more information on with whom to take care of it with we would then be deposed to expedite the consiliation process just a *Tad*....

[Smut]

Originally posted by 2Hawks
Already brought up in another post, however if you would be inclined to provide a little more information on with whom to take care of it with we would then be deposed to expedite the consiliation process just a *Tad*....

???

Is that not your squadron, and your squadrons stuff?

Look dude, we are asking nicely. Take care of it please. You are selling something that doesn't belong to you.

We can do this the not nice way if need be. Your choice.

-Smut

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Smut
???

Is that not your squadron, and your squadrons stuff?

Look dude, we are asking nicely. Take care of it please. You are selling something that doesn't belong to you.

We can do this the not nice way if need be. Your choice.

-Smut

--- Sometimes....

Who OWNS the COPYRIGHT?

WHOM Do I Contact about the copyright infringement.

I KNOW I'ts my Squads website I am the one who made it...

I was requesting more information outside the obvious, perhaps you personaly know the copyright owner as your coming to his/her defense. Don't threaten to sue me for your *Ahem* assumptions... Keep it up and I will show you "Not Nice".

Resolution is in the works, now give the info so we can be sure to contact the right person. As you seem to be so close to be able to offer retribution on their behalf.

[Killjoy2]

2Hawks,

Some friendly advice from a flying pig.   You're using artwork that is copyrighted. Take it down.

If you need some advice about the Flying Pigs squad, ask Drex, Nash, KBman, Frodo and just about anyone who's been flying these sims for a long time.  They'll all tell you to take the artwork down.

You really don't need to push back.  It's just common sense.

[Lephturn]

The longer you keep that stuff up for sale, the less likely you are to be able to use it afterwards.  Take it down now, then we can discuss it.

[Smut]

I guess you have made your choice.

-Smut

[Drex]

No doubt a best seller, but this isn't a logo from some random group.  The Flying Pigs have been a staple in online flight sims for many years.  Your dealing with a group of guys that have the same passion as you do for this hobby. From developing sims your squad might have flown (Janes F-18, Janes F-15, etc) to giving back to our community with fantastic training that many of us have utilized over the years.  (Out of 4 Head Trainers that have been in WB and AH since 1996 3 of them have been Flying Pigs.)  Also, dedicating an insane amount of hours setting up the Major Scenerio for all of us to enjoy.    

Bad form, dude.  Take it down.  

Drex

[2Hawks]

S.O.B.

I have sent a message to the person who is responsible for that Page.

I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE MERCHANDISE PAGE. I made the squad page, and installed the forums on my familes personal pages (http://www.clanbaker.com) The Server the squad page is on is paid by someone else of which I have Limited Access.

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS.

I very Initially advised everyone here that I have moved to correct the issue.  If the Person responsible for that page is not immediatly available don't get pissy with me. If he doesn't fix it by the end of the week I will disble the link.

I will push back at anyone who pushes at me regardless of the reason. You wanna civil response, then behave in a Civil fashion. You threaten to sue my 'hackles ' rise and I will look to a good offense as a good defense.

As for inquiring about copyright infrindgement I was looking to relay the information to the copyright owner and work out a product line for them as well, and give the owner a bit for the work. Same goes for any other squad that might like something of the same.

How about in the future, before we Jump down ppl's throats, we look towards a mutually beneficial relationship? That is what I would classify as a Civil response. Further, many ppl live on different parts of the world and may or may not exist on the same day. To expect an immediate response would imply you hadn't put much thought into your post other than seeing an opportunity to jump on someones arse.

Form Be Damned... As I said, if the owner of that merchandise page doesn't respond by Friday I will Disable the Link. He wasn't on last night and none of the squaddies saw him on.  

There is not much more I can do. I am not disputing the source or validity of the copyright Nor am making claims on the Flying Pigs Charactor, programming abilities or contribution to the online community.

The Ball has been set in motion for corrections. not every lives online like we all do. Let the damn ball roll.

Now let this be the end of it. Once the art is removed we can start from scratch.