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Offline AKWeav

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2003, 01:31:49 PM »
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The mister thing was about me and my 'fix it all by self' talk.


Ah. It's impressive that you have that knowledge. I'm afraid I don't at this time. Perhaps you have a suggestion of something I need to do to have wwwol recognize my controllers, when all of the other programs I run have no such problems?

Now to finish the post which was so rudely interupted by the thunder storm :p

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roughly put, 95% of the volume is useless whining,


You mean like this? http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiolhq/dg_message.jsp?group_id=8863&parent_id=3076980&BV_SessionID=@@@@1415355562.1060538685@@@@&BV_EngineID=eadcichfmhfdbjjcgmcggichhl.0

or this? http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiolhq/dg_message.jsp?group_id=8863&parent_id=3088897&BV_SessionID=@@@@1415355562.1060538685@@@@&BV_EngineID=eadcichfmhfdbjjcgmcggichhl.0

Sure there are some of these: http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiolhq/dg_message.jsp?group_id=8863&parent_id=3088097&BV_SessionID=@@@@1415355562.1060538685@@@@&BV_EngineID=eadcichfmhfdbjjcgmcggichhl.0
We have them here too, but our bbs is open to all who play nice;) When they don't, the thread simply gets locked. There are a few locked ones there also.:eek:

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I'm sure this demming (lemming? :> ) guy had a different kind of business in his mind..


The core of any business concept is to deliver a product that meets/exceeds customer expectations. This has nothing to do with production methods. Ergo, weather you're producing cars, airplanes, software, or ice cream cones, the principal is the same.  Classic examples  of failures to follow these would be the Edsel, or AMC Matador. Sure some folks bought them at first, but how long did they last?

Btw Fishu, do you have an account with ww2ol? Are you willing to post a link to this thread in the Hanger?

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btw. a little remark... I do prefer common sense.


Ditto! ;)
« Last Edit: August 10, 2003, 02:32:59 PM by AKWeav »

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2003, 04:17:49 PM »
I "do" have an account but I haven't had the money to pay for it lately..

What comes to your problems, I don't really know what to say since I don't have any experience with the kind of systems you're using.

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2003, 04:37:59 PM »
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Never had problems with working out X45 or CH's CS F16 in WWIIOL myself, whilst had windows 98 and XP.


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Oh.. and I got the X45 as well...


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The mister thing was about me and my 'fix it all by self' talk.


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What comes to your problems, I don't really know what to say since I don't have any experience with the kind of systems you're using.


Gee, thanks for all your useful replies. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2003, 09:20:34 PM »
Weave I've used WW2OL with all sorts of combinations of X45, Ch FS Pro Gameport, CH Throttle GamePort, CH Pedals USB and gameport, TM FLCS/TQS (stickworks) and TM Elite Pedals. All under XP and all worked fine.

The problem I've found is the way you program the axis. In AH for example you select the control input and assign the axis from a list. By default WW2OL tries to be 'smart', and detects which axis is being moved.

My current setup has the TM FLCS, TQS with the elite pedals off to one side (for some reason it will not detect without the pedals plugged in), and CH Pro Pedals USB under the desk. The elite pedals spike. So whenever I click an axis they get 'pasted' in automatically.

So what I do is find the axis I want, click on joystick from the top menu. Then manually select the stick and axis QUICKLY so the game doesn't autodetect the elite pedals spiking away in the background.

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2003, 06:16:40 AM »
The problem is the game doesn't see any controllers as long as the pedals are plugged in. Unplug the pedals, the j/s is there. Plug em back in, all gone.:(

This happens just with ww2ol. It has manifested itself through two different machines, and two operating systems (XP Pro, XP Home). Maybe someone is trying tell me something.:rolleyes:

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So what I do is find the axis I want, click on joystick from the top menu. Then manually select the stick and axis QUICKLY so the game doesn't autodetect the elite pedals spiking away in the background.


Not sure if I understand this. Clicking on the joystick tab at the top of the screen changes the profile from a keyboard, to an axis configuration. There are joystick selections from 1 through 4, but no information as to which would be the X-45, or the CH Pro rudders. Am I missing something? :eek:

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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2003, 07:40:37 AM »
10 hour shifts with 3 days off every week does have it’s merits. Coupled with having to shell out tons of funds in bills this week though, sitting in front of the computer for 2 days instead of going out for the rest of the weekend to save any remaining fun funds may or may not have been a bonus this week. I took it as a time to try lotsa new games. Free time at home if you will.

First was DOD. I told ack-ack what I thought about it. BF1942 it ain’t. Good free download though. A 1 hour distraction. Off to the TV and doing chores.

Then Madden 2003. Maybe Funky can explain it, I know the career mode with stats is supposed to be good, but I lost interest very quickly. I did learn to dig the Microsoft gamepad I got at a garage sale for a buck $1 though. And scoring a long run against the Bears WAS cool. I just missed the whole picture I guess.

Most important, I then I dug through the game pile and got out the “WWIIOL Reader Choice” box. I thankfully downloaded the entire new patch unlike last X-mas when I got the turd game for the second time. (I bought the initial release but I’ll not discuss that.)

 The Reader Choice Edition CD second time around made me download patch after patch after patch via auto-update. This time I got the current patches, and installing it was a snap. I re-registered and went to offline to play.

It’s been said before, but getting a Saitek X45 and USB Pro CH Pedals to work is damn near impossible. Certainly a savvy computer gamer would figure it out, I kinda did, but my god, never did get it to work right.

I finally took off in a Hurricane C, and with full rudder deflection was able to fly through billboard trees. What is with that btw? I liked the speed sensation though, then I crashed because I couldn’t set it up nor hold the rudder anymore.

I also tried the tanks, the GUI is so intuitive isn’t it, lol. I at least started the tank.

I then went back to their webpage and tried to join the training group to find answers. I couldn’t get online, I guess no membership till I get an account, so no training. I did register; I’m still waiting for an email response. Well, I was, but now I won’t for the 3rd time deal with it.

The bottom line is regardless if this game is the best thing going, who is in charge of the interface and what is that position called?

Fire them and fast.

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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2003, 08:03:13 AM »
Lol, I keep checking on the status of my original ticket with their "tech support". Friggin thing hasn't even been assigned to anyone yet.

I think maybe they'er too busy dealing with their current customer base and their endless complaints about the tri-wing 109F.:rolleyes:

Check it out here: http://www5.playnet.com/bv/wwiiolhq/dg_message.jsp?group_id=8863&parent_id=3096315&BV_SessionID=@@@@1134554926.1060693335@@@@&BV_EngineID=dadcicieilelbjjcgmcggichhl.0

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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2003, 08:12:12 AM »
I've never seen a game that I have and still want to throw money at to actually try and enjoy, have so many obstacles to prevent that from happening.

Like they are saving people from cheating them.

Unbelievable. The irony is too much.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2003, 08:37:58 AM »
Creamo you need a mentor to get you going. I had one and within an hour I went from total newbie to killing machine. Well not quite but at least I knew what was going on.

If you want I can help you out.

email me and I can walk you through the tanks and other stuff pretty quick. Send me an email at chairstore@on.aibn.com and I will set up a time when we can work it out. Do you have Team Speak?

The game is really fun but as you said frustrating when you first get in it.

I keep multiple subs active for my flight sim game, ww2ol etc. I play them all. But WW2OL is the best game for simulating a war.

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2003, 08:47:39 AM »
Ill get Teamspeak, and yup, Ill email you on Friday.

TY.

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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2003, 08:51:13 AM »
I had a flight last night in a hurri IIc.  I got over target in Achel and started scanning for tanks to bomb.  That's when I saw a call for help on the radio buffer.  Some guys were attacking Achel from the north and they had 2 panzers and a 232 that had them pinned down about a mile out of town.  I got lucky and actually hit both panzers in one pass, one with each bomb.  Then I made a flaming hulk out of the 232 that had been machine gunning our troops.  Our inf was able to advance :)  Then for the rest of my ammo load I hit opels full of german inf being transported from  the next town over :D  

 Point being,  I actually had a small positive effect on the battle field below me.  It's amazing how fast the tide of battle can change when you get some CAS in the area.  I've seen major attacks stopped or helped out just by 2 or 3 planes showing up.

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2003, 09:36:10 AM »
Creamo

That is my work email so just send an email anytime and I will give you my home email. I don't want to post it anywhere as currently I get no spam at all.

Regarding flying through trees. You were flying through bushes. I can vouch that if you hit a tree you will get a totally different result.

Also I use a MS FFB joystick for WW2OL. I didn't have any trouble at all setting it up. For what they cost you might want to get a cheapie joystick to use for driving tanks etc. You can fly with it as well although it has a twist rudder.

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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2003, 12:37:23 PM »
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It’s been said before, but getting a Saitek X45 and USB Pro CH Pedals to work is damn near impossible.


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Also I use a MS FFB joystick for WW2OL. I didn't have any trouble at all setting it up. For what they cost you


So maybe I should throw the Saitek, and the CH pedals in the trash, and go buy a cheap Gravis and I would be in like Flynn?  :p

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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2003, 01:46:17 PM »
Basically.

Yes.  :D

At least until you try the game and like it enough to spend the time to get the pedels to work.

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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2003, 03:38:53 PM »
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Basically.

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Yes.


Dunno what it is, but something is terribly wrong with that concept. :p