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Offline Rude

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2003, 10:51:10 AM »
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No fibia... don't miss it.   Does make me less than sensitive on the gas pedal tho.. I make people car sick with my on/off style..  kidding about the dog... don't know what happened to the damn thing.   lots of blood loss... lots of shock not much pain.   Eldorado bumper did the deed... big ol SU carb puched right through the leg... bout a inch of meat was still holding it on so I guess i was exaggerating to make the story sound better.
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Whatta Girlscout....you haven't felt real pain until you've spent 4 hours tryin to find a fight in the Pizza Map.

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Seriously, I've been fortunate in my life....just alot of tooth pain. I must have a high tolerance to the meds mentioned here....percocet and vicodin are like candy for me...they just don't work.

One of our squad members is dealing with cancer....he is on Oxy something.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2003, 11:01:28 AM »
I admit I am unable to withstand such intense pain.   I think that I made an enemy of poor ol deja tho by pointing out what a mess of a map is named after his squad.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2003, 02:57:23 PM »
Hum, girl scout huh?

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lol lazs, your like a real pirate and everything.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2003, 05:57:41 PM »
Thru the use of deep transcendental fifth level meditation techniques, taught to me by the Dali Lama himself, (Big hitter, the Lama, long) I am able to transcend the physical state and enter the spiritual, relieving myself of the worldly manifestation of pain
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2003, 11:22:25 PM »
Lazs is making this all up.  He's 5'6", fat, bald, harmless.  Pasty white, soft hands, not a mark on him.  He heard all these biker and hot rod stories from a wino at the Greyhound station and he spreads them around like they happened to him.

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2003, 08:37:30 AM »
lol laz, you have been in the wars! ;)

and holy cow rc51 you must be the same as me when it came to motorbikes.I had roughly 12 crashes on my various motorbikes , probably only 3 of those were serious though , others were silly things like broken fingers etc.
Ive only broken my left fibula and left collarbone (cracked couple of ribs) in these crashes until i did a thourough job by breaking my back at L1/T12

My problem all stems from the fact i crushed L1/T12 rather than breaking it. I landed on my bellybutton at around 60mph after doing a rather special aerial cartwheel off my 600 motorbike :).I had a metal implant for around a year, put in in a 6 hour opp on the night of my accident, until it seemed to stabelise, then had it removed.For 10 years the only problem i had was really rare in that i only seemed to get an attack of extreme pain maybe once every 4 or 5 months.totally acceptable
Now i consider myself very tollerant to pain, When you crush your fingers or get burned etc I find these sorts of thing no problem and i always refused pain killers through my hate of taking any chemicals. For instance when i had morphene after my original back-break I refused it after the second day. Severe ache is tollorable.But when i get these attacks they arent something you can try to use mind over matter. The pain rises Very quickly and is gone just as fast. I would liken it to being stuck with a huge needle deep in the hip and then connecting it to the national grid electricity pylons!! lol real bastards! You have no time to prepare yourself and its always just beyond your capability to ignore with a growl lol. When im out boozing i have to try to 'look' as though im not being stabbed with a knife!! lol very tricky when your trying to act cool in front of a nice girl!. hehe i have a perfected 'dead pan' face i have to use :D funniest thing is getting an attack just as your best mate is on the punch line of a good joke!

This nerve pain im currently recieving is as bad as any of my previously rare attacks (which incidently meant no sleep whatsoever unless i was literally knocked out with drowsiness inducing drugs and sheer exhaustion from straining against the pain all night).What the doctors suspect is that now the vertebrea are 'slipping' and trapping whatever nerves were causing those infrequent attacks, meaning i now got them pretty much every day. I have to take that tramodol and gabapentin to just function (takes 2 or 3 hours from when i wake up like a bear with a sore head for the nerves to sort of settle or dull down)

So then i had my surgery again to fix a new metal implant and like laz fuze all the vertabrea (T11 to L2) I had another 6 hour op and they actually attached this one NOT to the back of my spine but to the front! they collapsed a lung cut my diaphram in half fixed the spinal brace and sowed me up. It was a hell of a operation to recover from and id say it was a good 5 months before i got my strength/helth back to a normal level. The problem was that it was all for nothing, the damn pains continued and so the doctors are pretty baffled. Now im due to go in to have a week of tests, they are going to try various methods to see if they can pinpoint the area causing the problems.
If they fail the possible resolution will be a cutting of the tactile nerve connections to my hips in order to numb the entire area(obviously some risk here).Im all for this after all this time. Id rather have no feeling than constant pain.Basically all this and many more 'tests' ive done to try and beat it have happened over the 2 to 3 years ive been on AH.

Acupuncture is something i have never really believed in. Ive had plenty of people giving advice which i politely accept but often have to laugh at like 'how about rubbing crystals over the pain' and other alternative crap ;)
Has it really worked for you? if you really think it could stop such strong and sharp pain i may well give it a try, but to be honest i suspect theres little short of heavy pain killers that can tackle this damage i have. Its almost like the nerves are going crazy and are not behaving in any way normally. With my current drugs they seem to dull my brains capacity to 'interpret' this mess and so relieves it. I really cant imagine a few pins stopping them. I gouge my thumbs into the points of pain like im trying to tear the bones out and whilst this would usually hurt, during an attack of this pain i cant even feel it. This is what puts me off all this alternative stuff.

anyhow thanks for chatting guys and i hope things go well for you guys as well as myself when im next in the hospital. Im getting on with things, 'as you do' :) . I wont mope around and rarely put any of this crap on any of my friends, but i must say its great to let it all out on these BB's to you bunch of loons lol ;)

And Laz as a real life pirate made me spit my tea.and raised a smiile. Now if i could just do that every morning as i wake up in a foul mood things would improve wouldnt they :) hehe

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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2003, 08:39:18 AM »
thanks funked... you said you weren't gonna tell anyone if I let you drive my BMW!

Pirate?   I think that the people my age with the worst old injuries are the bikers... The very worst being the racers and the worst of that lot the motocross guys.  Man they crippled a lot of kids them old motoX bikes.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2003, 08:43:49 AM »
hazed your problem is socialized medicine and tea.  And possibly driving on the wrong side of the road and not being able to unwind by shooting off a few boxes of .44 magnums once in a while.   If none of that stuff helps then the dali lama thing sound ok i guess.

If you strengthen the muscles around the lower back, just a little like crunches, then it takes some strain off the lower back and a lot of the lower back pain is muscle pain from moving oddly anyhow.
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2003, 08:59:53 AM »
I had two teeth extracted last november and was given a wonderful prescription to percocet.  I could eat two of those a day for the rest of my life and Id be set.

Last december I fractured my sternum.  Just about he worst day Ive ever had but when the doctor gave me that little yellow slip and I read "percocet" I got better just thinking about it.

If you have percocet and dont want it (alergic etc etc) just email me and we work something out.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2003, 09:03:58 AM »
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hazed your problem is socialized medicine and tea.  And possibly driving on the wrong side of the road and not being able to unwind by shooting off a few boxes of .44 magnums once in a while.   If none of that stuff helps then the dali lama thing sound ok i guess.

If you strengthen the muscles around the lower back, just a little like crunches, then it takes some strain off the lower back and a lot of the lower back pain is muscle pain from moving oddly anyhow.
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you could be right laz, the 'twisting' effect from trying to avoid the pain is probably part of the cause. I do do 20 to 30 pullups on a chin bar once the pain killers have been working for a while but i can honestly say i dont think i can do excersise 'during' the nasty pain periods. It really does turn me into a 90 year old in terms of speed. I barely want to move and if i reach for say a cup of drink in a strange way Ill get a 'hit' of pain and i'll stop dead in my tracks, tense up to the point of pulling muscles in my elbow and cramping my thumbs of all things. You know when your hands turn into claws where you grip against the pain?. You see i think my biggest problem is im in a kind of viscious circle. Without pain killers I cant function and with them im obviously not doing myself a lot of good healthwise. Im going to try those crunches in my back you suggest though, a few mins doing that each day might help so ill test that one out, ya never know.

If a bit of meditation would work id sure as hell be surprised but i can see your .44 magnum theory working a treat!!! lol
I was in the US in vegas last year(not long after afghanistan/taliban fights) and fired off a 9mm baretta (about 4 clips), a 9mm MP5 in semi auto mode (2x 32rnd clips) and my favourite the MP40 schmeiser 3x32 rnd per clip in full auto mode) BLOODY FANTASTIC! :) whats more when i got there the guy saw we were english and asked me to pick a target to shoot at, the choices were big target circle, a picture of a buck deer or 2 lovely renditions of Saddam hussain or Osama Bin ladin!.

My reply was 'I'll take that c*nt there' pointing to Osama and the gunshop guy Beamed from ear to ear. He didnt charge me for a 3rd clip on the mp40! :) how cool is that. Guess we just like people who want that scum dead :D
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2003, 09:48:25 AM »
what really helped my lower back last summer was 40 minutes of Yoga each morning

started with a tv show, then purchased a couple of videos - I was amazed at the difference.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2003, 10:09:53 AM »
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what really helped my lower back last summer was 40 minutes of Yoga each morning

started with a tv show, then purchased a couple of videos - I was amazed at the difference.


I've considered yoga or Tai Chi.  As a 34-year old I've noticed that my back and other parts tend to ache more and more.

Eagler, have you noticed any other improvements, such as stress or tension release, from yoga?
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2003, 10:16:47 AM »
Is it allowed to play under influence/doping? :)

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2003, 10:19:40 AM »
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I've considered yoga or Tai Chi.  As a 34-year old I've noticed that my back and other parts tend to ache more and more.

Eagler, have you noticed any other improvements, such as stress or tension release, from yoga?


yes, it is a harder form of exercise then most ppl ,including me, would think at first. It helped with a weight loss program I was undertaking, lowered stress and helped kick start the day as I did it from 6 to 6:30/6:45 in the am. I started with the "YogaZone" I found on the HealthNetwork channel surfin one am. When Discovery bought out those folks, they removed that program. I picked up a set of DVD's from here:
http://www.yogazone.com/detail.aspx?itemno=GP10020

Have picked up a couple more from the local Sports Authority..
recommend it to anyone, regardless of shape/condition as you only go as far as your body lets you.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2003, 02:59:24 PM »
I bought one of those situp cheat things that kinda roll you up... they go  for about 20 bucks new or a couple of bucks at any thrift shop.   I really think that strengthening the lower back muscles helps.

I also think that mood and stress (or lack thereof) helps.   If you think the exercise is helping then it does.   exercise helps with stress so it whould help with the pain no matter what.

Fast cars and handguns relieve stress pretty well too.   Sex works but it often leads to more stress since the partner tends to hang out afterwards im most cases.
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