Author Topic: Impreza at Speed (Read 667 times)

funkedup · « **on:** August 11, 2003, 03:48:26 PM »

This was shot from Petter Solberg's car at the Neste Rally Finland on Sunday: http://www.niftypixel.com/nasioc/petterfinland.mov
Amazing driving and footage.

It's what's inside that makes the difference.

Staga · « **Reply #1 on:** August 11, 2003, 09:26:28 PM »

Yep that's Ouninpohja.
What you can't see too well from that footage is that road has lots of steep up- and downhills and it's pretty fun road to drive even with 180hp Toyota Carina Coupe with Levin TwinCam

Mark Luper · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2003, 09:41:03 PM »

There is obviously a lot of good car control depicted there... and the guy has to be a total loon!

Mini D · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:01:50 PM »

That type of racing has always amazed me. Do they just do time trials racing? Or are they crazy enough to have cars racing head to head on that type of track ever?

Staga · « **Reply #4 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:20:52 PM »

Mostly they drive against a clock, only in some super special stages they're driving against each others in track but still using their own lanes.

Couple links:
http://www.wrc-year.com/2003/reports.cfm?event=09
http://www.wrc.com/en_GB/default.htm

funkedup · « **Reply #5 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:32:26 PM »

MiniD it's on Speed if you get that channel.
Set TiVo to grab anything with "FIA World Rally" in the title.
It's against the clock, on public roads, with street legal cars.

Staga · « **Reply #6 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:33:15 PM »

Of course these WRC and Group A cars are just a shadow what rally cars were 20 years ago when Audi Sport Quattro, Peugeot 205T-16 and Lancia Delta Integrale HF (and later S4) were flying low with 500-700hp under the hood.
Engines were capable of pushing over 700hp thought power like that was too much for rally and was used mostly after Group-B was banned and cars were used in RallyCross (kinda like Dirt-track).

"Henri Toivonen drove an S4 around Estoril, the Portuguese Grand Prix circuit, so quickly that he would have qualified sixth for the 1986 Portuguese (Formula 1) Grand Prix.
Nigel Mansell sampled a Peugeot 205 T16 and said it could out-accelerate his F1 car. And, perhaps most impressive (frightening?), the driver's reaction times were cut in half compared with previous rally cars. The Group B rally cars and their pilots were the stuff of which legends are made."

funkedup · « **Reply #7 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:33:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Yep that's Ouninpohja.
What you can't see too well from that footage is that road has lots of steep up- and downhills and it's pretty fun road to drive even with 180hp Toyota Carina Coupe with Levin TwinCam

If I ever get over there, I demand you take me out on that road.

funkedup · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:39:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Of course these WRC and Group A cars are just a shadow what rally cars were 20 years ago when Audi Sport Quattro, Peugeot 205T-16 and Lancia Delta Integrale HF (and later S4) were flying low with 500-700hp under the hood.

The interesting thing is that the guys who have driven both Group B and WRC say that the new cars are actually faster on the stages due to improvements in suspension, drivetrain, and tires. But I'm sure the Group B cars were faster on the long straights.

funkedup · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:42:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Mark Luper
There is obviously a lot of good car control depicted there... and the guy has to be a total loon!

If there is one guy in the WRC who could be called a loon, it's Petter Solberg.

IMHO the real crazy guy is the one calling out the turns in the video. That's his co-pilot, Phil Mills.

funkedup · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:44:25 PM »

PS they put distance markers on some of those jumps. Some of the cars were flying for over 50m, which is like 170 feet.

Staga · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2003, 10:52:54 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
If I ever get over there, I demand you take me out on that road.

Sure, just bring your Subaru with you and I'll take you to the tire shop my friend is running

Reason why I know those places is that I've actually lived in Jämsä, 40km S from Jyväskylä, and still visiting there now and then. Oh and my grand parents were living in Partala just next to Ouninpohja and our family still has their house in there...

Staga · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2003, 11:06:39 PM »

Funked Group-B cars were also much lighter than WRC or Group-A cars (<1000kg vs 1300-1400kg) and accelerated much better (0-100kmh about 1 sec faster, <2,5sec vs <3,5sec).

However it's true that modern cars are faster than those old monsters due the modern technics but these new cars are missing those sounds and several feet long flames coming out from exhaust pipes when raw gasoline was injected to the headers to keep turbo in speed even when throttle was closed

Hehe one thing I'm missing is the smell of parafine racing oils

Edit: Cool Pics. There's even a Mini Cooper for DJV

funkedup · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2003, 11:48:56 PM »

Actually they are doing the raw fuel in the headers again. They called it the "anti-lag system". Both Skodas had big problems with it last weekend, and you could hear them farting all over the place.

funkedup · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2003, 11:51:12 PM »

BTW there is an (allegedly) street legal WRX (Cobb Tuning's Conebasher) which does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds.