Author Topic: So last night IGShill is racking up a bunch of kills in a Mosquito...  (Read 792 times)

Offline gofaster

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... which I think is hilarious. I'm picturing the Millenium Falcon dogfighting against Darth Vader's TIE fighter in the Death Star trench, I guess.  I've tried fighting in the Mossie before and accomplished nothing but ripping off my tail, but he's chinging up kills faster than a pinball machine rings up metal balls, so I figure I'll give it a go.

First run is a simple 250lb bomb drop over the A46 city.  There's a pretty heavy enemy presence but they're all down below 10k so I decide make a high-speed pass.  Both bombs miss so I swing around to do some town strafing, with a Bish Yak and Spit IX trailing me.  I pop the Spit, which was last in line, in a wing-over HO shot, then strafe a set of buildings before the Yak saws off my tail on pull-out.

Next run was all-guns.  Mutual HO against a 109 and we both die in brilliant explosions.

All-guns again.  Get an assist on a wounded Lancaster, kill a Spit in a snapshot, then a N1K hammers off my wing.

All-guns for the next few runs as both teams battled for supremacy over the "air corridor".  I pop a couple of Mustangs in the back when they try their high-speed dive escape maneuver, get a Spit or 2 in snapshot merges, kill a running LA-7 on the deck, the usual fare. Finally we manage to push them back and I decide to reduce my fuel load to try and increase performance.

I make the run to A46 and start my dive on the airfield from 15k.  The Bish are thick on the deck and the Mossie starts a-shakin' and a-rattlin' by the time I'm crossing the 8k mark.  I cut my throttle and start swinging the rudder like IGShill had suggested, to reduce my speed so I don't rip off my tail.  I'm starting my vulch run when I see some red planes upping.  The cannons bark like a chain-gun and the ground boils with my shells.  A Mustang and Spitfire lose their wings on their take-off rolls, and I just keep my finger on the trigger and rake all the way down the runway.  Bap! Bap! Bap!  Some hits from an M16 parked on the reload pad.  He's holed my radiator!  I complete my pass and swing around for another one, coolant trailing off my wing like air show smoke.

I start my vulch run again and the cannons spew hot lead down the runway.   A 109 and LA-7 are starting their take-off rolls as my shells rip them apart.  Farther down the runway, another Spit starts smoking and going to pieces as my cannons stitch a line down the tarmac while a Yak and Spit come at me from the sides.  The airfield is ablaze and its hard to see all the planes zooming around the hangars.  The M16 starts chattering at me again as I charge headlong at him so I kick a little left rudder and rake him with cannon.  Boom!  He explodes in a mist of flame and metal.

I've cut 5 planes to pieces but only got kill credits on 3 of them (I guess the other 2 managed to "Land Successfully" on their runway).  I pull out and head for home, trying to nurse the dying engine.  I radio to IGShill that I'm losing a radiator and heading for home, so he suggests that I cut the wounded engine and then restart it when I get closer.  Just about the time I finish asking IG how to cut an engine, they both die.  I'm out of gas!  I use the autopilot to keep the perfect balance of speed and altitude until the nose starts to drop, then I drop flaps and gear and roll it down the side of a hill.

My hands are sweating as the Mosquito glides to a stop.  

That's when I realize that I'm addicted to the Mosquito.

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2003, 10:45:29 AM »
nice story :)

gotta love quad hiszookas in the nose :D

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2003, 11:11:06 AM »
I think the bug is going around, or at least a similar strain...

Almost by accident, I took up a 110G to do some attack runs, and now I cant put the beast away.

She big, surly, and rough around the edges, but I can't put her away.  Every night, she calls like a siren and I find myself back behind the controls.

She is better then most think in the vertical, and people know to stay away from the pointy end, so HOs are an exercise in enemy emergency peel-offs (pretty funny too).

There is this sense of accomplishment in landing a good solid sortie, that just isnt there with the single engine "little ones".  I'll try out the Mosquito next and compare the two.



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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2003, 12:25:37 PM »
Can't say I had any real success yet in a Mossie, but it was fun to take it up at night for the first time.  My goal was to run it on the deck and orbit a bad guy field, ala the Mossie intruder's I've read about.  

Enroute I saw a good guy in trouble so I wheeled in to try and help, knowing I would more then likely get clobbered, which in fact happened.

Kinda wanted a Beaufighter after that to go hunting in the night :)

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2003, 12:34:27 PM »
Shame our mossie is so undermodelled!

Flight crews used to joke about DeHavilland designing the mosquito as a single engined aircraft because it flew so well on one engine, and the other one was added for luck!

"According to one story, later in the war an incautious Yank pilot at the controls of a Martin B-26 Marauder, itself regarded as a fairly hot twin-engine aircraft, once challenged a Mosquito pilot to a race. The Mosquito left the B-26 in the dust, flying past inverted with one prop feathered."
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2003, 12:49:11 PM »
I flew the Mossie a while. Great guns and you can surprise a lot of ppl in it. Too bad it's so poor in the vertical. I finally went back to my 110 :)

Bigred, have you tried the c4 yet?
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2003, 12:58:05 PM »
The Mossie is way more potent as a fighter than most people realize I think.  Either that or I'm better than I think I am.  Probably the first.  I suspect that many people flying Mossies (many of those few that do I mean) simply see it as a pure attack aircraft and pretty much give up and let themselves die if any air-to-air threat comes along.

A few points that I find helpful in the Mosquito.

1) Try to maintain the altitude advantage for as long as possible.

2) If your mission profile allows it, keep at least 5,000ft under you.

3) Remember that the Mosquito is faster than the Spitfire Mk IX up to about 8,000ft and is faster than the N1K2-J at all altitudes.  Those are the first and fourth most common fighters.

4) Remember that the Mosquito dives like an aerodynamicly cleaned up lead weight.  Many aircraft that will out run you in a level flight cannot keep up in a dive.

5) The Mosquito seems to decelerate to its max level speed at a slower rate than other aircraft, thus a dive to 500mph and then level can get you away from aircraft that are marginally faster in level flight.

6) The Mosquito is made of wood, thus manuvering at excessive speed can result in the loss of control surfaces.  Be very gentle in manuvers at speeds over 450mph.

7) For killing fighters the Mosquito's gun package is second to none.

8) Set the convergence to 650 yards and do not use the .303s unless you have no choice or are straffing buildings.

9) The Mosquito's fuel cunsumption rate is bugged and it guzzles fuel at twice the rate it should.

10) Remember, WEP on the Mosquito has no effect above 15,000ft, don't use it and waste it if you are up there.

11) The Mosquito has the best "look forward, look down" capability of any fighter in AH.  Use your head positioning to look at what is at 12 o'clock low rather than bleeding speed with turns or rolls.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2003, 01:46:49 PM »
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3) Remember that the Mosquito is faster than the Spitfire Mk IX up to about 8,000ft and is faster than the N1K2-J at all altitudes.  Those are the first and fourth most common fighters.

8) Set the convergence to 650 yards and do not use the .303s unless you have no choice or are straffing buildings.

9) The Mosquito's fuel cunsumption rate is bugged and it guzzles fuel at twice the rate it should.

10) Remember, WEP on the Mosquito has no effect above 15,000ft, don't use it and waste it if you are up there.

11) The Mosquito has the best "look forward, look down" capability of any fighter in AH.  Use your head positioning to look at what is at 12 o'clock low rather than bleeding speed with turns or rolls.


I find these points particularly worth remembering.  I discovered #11 last night while searching for enemy GVs spawning to A45 town as I was climbing out.  Looking over the nose is like standing in a cherrypicker looking down.  I'll have to remember the notes about the ineffectiveness of WEP above angels 15.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2003, 05:30:25 PM »
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3) Remember that the Mosquito is faster than the Spitfire Mk IX up to about 8,000ft and is faster than the N1K2-J at all altitudes.  Those are the first and fourth most common fighters.






Is that true of only the Mk VI series and earlier?  Also, the Mk VI variant we have in AH, is it the Series 2 variant of the Mk VI?  If it is supposed to be the Mk VI Series 2, would be nice to see a weapons option of being able to carry a 57mm cannon and the 4,000lb Block Buster.  Hopefully it will have that option in AH2 if the Mossie is the Series 2 Mk VI.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2003, 12:18:50 AM »
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Is that true of only the Mk VI series and earlier?  Also, the Mk VI variant we have in AH, is it the Series 2 variant of the Mk VI?  If it is supposed to be the Mk VI Series 2, would be nice to see a weapons option of being able to carry a 57mm cannon and the 4,000lb Block Buster.  Hopefully it will have that option in AH2 if the Mossie is the Series 2 Mk VI.


The Mosquito in AH is a Mosquito FB.Mk VI Series 2.

It could not carry a 4,000lb bomb and the "Tse Tse" Mosquito with the 57mm Mollins gun was based off of the Mk VI Series 2, but was the Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII.

The Mossies that could carry the 4,000lb bomb were:

Mosquito B.Mk IV Special
Mosquito B.Mk IX Special
Mosquito B.Mk XVI

The Mosquito FB.Mk VI was limited to two 500lb bombs in the bomb bay as the forward half of the bomb bay are taken up by the cannon breaches.  All Mosquitoes that could carry the 4,000lb "cookie" have distinctive, bulged bomb bays and are completely unarmed.


As to the speed, our Mossie is slowed down a bit by the exhaust ducts that suppress the flare from the engine exhaust.  Without those it would be 10-15mph faster.  Mosquitoes generally got faster as the war progressed.  The final nightfighter version, the Mk XXX, topped out at about 430mph.  The Mosquito B.Mk XVI could do 416mph with the 4,000lb bomb.  Ours tops out at 380mph at 13,0000ft.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2003, 01:47:40 AM »
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"The Mosquito left the B-26 in the dust, flying past inverted with one prop feathered."


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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2003, 02:32:16 AM »
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Why?

I'd think it would depend on which Mosquito.  I could see a late war PR, NF or B Mossie maybe doing so.  It is much better streamlined than the clunky B-26.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2003, 04:36:19 AM »
FB versions of the Mossie had no two-stage blowers so were optimized for lower altitudes, sadly.

I really don't know if 'our' Mossie is undermodeled but I think it is beyond denial that they were used to catch Fw-190 nuisance raiders and V1's. So it should be pretty fast at low altitudes. Furthermore, I expect simply more form a plane with the power loading of a Spitfire...

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2003, 04:59:24 AM »
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Why is that BS? remember seeing a mossie at duxford airshow one year doing one engine aerobatics.  It was *that* good on one engine.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2003, 06:13:07 PM »
gotta love dat Mosquiter