Author Topic: Well that sucked (Read 1697 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2003, 01:56:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Nuclear war is still a strong possibility boroda. The mechanism for nuclear war with russia is fully in place and armed.

The same thing here

Despite of the efforts to "disarm" our strategic missile forces... In early 90s our president said that our missiles are no longer aimed at american targets, but unfortunately, events of 1999 and 2003 definetly made our brass hats change their minds...

The problem is that nuclear attack is not nessesary to destroy your industry and cause heavy civilian losses

It's a great danger - the world's strongest economics can't survive a minor accident with power supplies...

It's one of the things where Socialist (i mean Soviet socialism) system is stronger then Capitalist. Planned electric network has 3-5 backup levels, and makes it almost impossible to cut off Russian industry and population centers from powerplants.

john9001 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2003, 02:14:26 PM »

the russian missles are all rusty hulks that can't get off the ground. russia =paper tiger.

daddy, tell us a bedtime story , tell us again about chernoble.

Boroda · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2003, 02:22:40 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the russian missles are all rusty hulks that can't get off the ground. russia =paper tiger.

daddy, tell us a bedtime story , tell us again about chernoble.

Wanna try? Good luck.

Especially when we returned MIRV missiles to combat duty after US withdrew from 1972 ABM treaty...

Every several months we have test launches that hit 10m circles at a test ground at Kamchatka. I bet you never see this on your TV.

Very sad that some people still think this way

john9001 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2003, 02:28:44 PM »

are the russians still selling rides in MIGs for gas money?

udet · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2003, 02:44:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda

It's one of the things where Socialist (i mean Soviet socialism) system is stronger then Capitalist. Planned electric network has 3-5 backup levels, and makes it almost impossible to cut off Russian industry and population centers from powerplants.

and of course, rural areas never had electicity installed in the first place, so no blackouts there...

rpm · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2003, 02:59:05 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the russian missles are all rusty hulks that can't get off the ground. russia =paper tiger.

I certainly hope you are trying to make a joke. Just cause they are old doesn't mean they are harmless. I don't think the US has made any "New" ICBM's since the Russians. Wasn't that part of one of the Treaties?

john9001 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2003, 03:11:16 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
I certainly hope you are trying to make a joke. Just cause they are old doesn't mean they are harmless.

you don't just stick a missle in the ground and leave it, you ever hear of maintance? the russians can't even pay their troops, you think they can maintain their missles and launch systems?
per the disarmament treaty the russians could not even afford to disarm their own missles , the USA had to loan them the money to do it and help them remove the warheads.

Boroda · « **Reply #22 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:13:54 PM »

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Originally posted by udet
and of course, rural areas never had electicity installed in the first place, so no blackouts there...

Well, I have travelled a lot, and really did see some villages in the mountains or taiga that have no electricity. There are some places in "traditionally" power-poor places like Krasnodar region where in some distant villages they have power for 4 hours daily, but they hardly can be called "industrial or population centres".

The State Electrical Network is one of the vital structures, and all the main lines have 3-5 backup levels. They were designed during cold war (thank you guys for your threat since 1946), and were supposed to withstand massive nuclear strikes. So, it's almost impossible to, for example, cut Moscow off from Volga powerstations or central-Russia nuclear powerplants, not even speaking about the fact that we have 14 (fourteen) powerplants in Moscow.

Now the electric network turned into a great "market place" for electrical producers and consumers. For example, when a steel factory builds their own "backup" power station - they sell the unnessesary power to the global network, and this power is delivered to some other place thousand kilometers away where someone needs it. The whole European Russia, Urals and Western Siberia are covered by this net.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:18:47 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
Try living in a rural area...it happens with every thunderstorm here. My house is total electric (including my water well). Longest I've been out of power was 4 days.

Just save a few pennies and think ahead(click here)

Boroda · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:20:30 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
you don't just stick a missle in the ground and leave it, you ever hear of maintance? the russians can't even pay their troops, you think they can maintain their missles and launch systems?
per the disarmament treaty the russians could not even afford to disarm their own missles , the USA had to loan them the money to do it and help them remove the warheads.

Yes, exactly, you just don't make electrical lines and forget about them - they need maintenance. Funny that the country that suddenly discovers that 50 millions are sitting in the dark burning candles teaches us how to deal with our strategic weapons.

As for "loaning" money - in fact US just gave us that money because you guys are still afraid. If you are rich enough to pay us for the missiles that were supposed to be removed from combat duty - you are always welcome.

After we lost the cold war we had to state it plain and clear: we can't afford a full-scale conventional war with agressive blocks like NATO, and we rely mostly on pre-emptive nuclear strike. It's sad, but true

AKIron · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:25:34 PM »

I bet the US consumes a LOT more electricity per capita than any where in Europe or Asia. Hell, Europeans don't even chill their beer and how many in Russia have year round electric cooling and heating Boroda? I think we're comparing oranges and apples here.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:28:41 PM »

Oh great the American idiots and the Russian idiots are having a tetosterone competition over nuclear warefare.........

Nyah! Nyah! we can destroy you!!

No you can't!!
Yes we can!!
No you can't!!!
Yes we can!!!!

Got to stop visiting here...either that or I'm going to write a thesis on idiots on the net....room temp iq's abound.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:33:00 PM »

U.S. company is developing a steam powered solar generator.

Eagler · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:33:54 PM »

Boro-moron

what in the hell does our power outage have to do with nuclear war with your two bit country?

just lonely and wanted attention or what??

Boroda · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2003, 01:41:19 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
I bet the US consumes a LOT more electricity per capita than any where in Europe or Asia. Hell, Europeans don't even chill their beer and how many in Russia have year round electric cooling and heating Boroda? I think we're comparing oranges and apples here.

Most of the urban population here has central heating, not electric. In Moscow most of the electricity is produced on "heat/electric stations" that supply heat as well as electricity.

It's hard to live without heating in winter here.

In Moscow heat is usually supplied from October to late April.