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Offline Sandman

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« on: August 17, 2003, 08:13:50 PM »
Not to dance on anyone's grave or anything, but...

Dood... that camera could easily be mistaken for an RPG or some other shoulder fired weapon.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20030817/ts_nm/iraq_cameraman_dc_11




This just in... those soldiers over there in Iraq... they aren't playin'.
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Offline OIO

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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2003, 08:22:44 PM »
yeah sad.

they should paint their cameras orange imo :(

Offline Fishu

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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2003, 08:28:15 PM »
However it's funny how reporters are relative often shot by these 'westerners' when compared to the opposing sides..
Like I've kept Israelis pretty notorious for managing to shoot all the reporters around area of the head.
Poor yanks are second to israelis - managed to shoot the journalist only in the chest.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2003, 08:50:23 PM by Fishu »

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2003, 08:56:21 PM »
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However it's funny how reporters are relative often shot by these 'westerners' when compared to the opposing sides..
Like I've kept Israelis pretty notorious for managing to shoot all the reporters around area of the head.
Poor yanks are second to israelis - managed to shoot the journalist only in the chest.


Don't forget to wipe you're mouth after you chit.
Geez what an Idiot:rolleyes:

Offline Fishu

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2003, 09:17:00 PM »
Never seen sarcasm, haven't you?

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2003, 09:30:01 PM »
we were trained to aim center mass.

aim small miss small

Offline Dago

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2003, 09:34:03 PM »
Brilliant idea, see a tank, know that the locals have been shooting at the soldiers with shoulder fired weapons, so jump out of your vehicle and point a large shoulder mounted black object at the tank.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2003, 09:34:28 PM »
I think it is sad that this cameraman lost his life due to a mistake, and I allso understand that cameramen have a very valid reason to be in combat zones.....but hey, combat zones are dangerous places, particularly if you are carrying something in a manner that could easily be mistaken for a shoulder launched weapon, a fact I am certain Mr Dana was well aware of.

OIO has it right in my opinion, noncombatants like civilian news crews should dress in dayglo pink, with flouro orange equipment while in combat zones, and certainly while filming armour.
Or for that matter, just orange pants and a white shirt, or any other highly visible combination that no soldier in his right mind would contemplate wearing in the field.
Green shirt and dark blue flak jacket just doesnt make sense.

If my life, and those of my crew, plus the operational effectiveness of the armoured vehicle I was in command of, rested on a split second decision as to weather that in fact was a camera, or an RPG, or some other form of shoulder launched anti-armour weapon, I would have fired, and thats what I think sitting behind a computer, safe in my home.  The guy in charge of that tank is on operational deployment in a country his army has recently invaded, and which is commonly known to not be all that friendly.
Considering the amount of RPG attacks in Iraq in recent months, it is very easy to see how this could happen, and allthough it truely is an unfortunate, and sad mistake,costing the life of a civilian, I hope the repercussions on the tank crew arent too severe.

Mr Dana died doing a job he obviously enjoyed, or at least had a strong passion for, what more could any of us really ask for.

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2003, 11:47:28 PM »
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However it's funny how reporters are relative often shot by these 'westerners' when compared to the opposing sides..
Like I've kept Israelis pretty notorious for managing to shoot all the reporters around area of the head.
Poor yanks are second to israelis - managed to shoot the journalist only in the chest.


As opposed to Finland?

Oh wait, they don't help.

Offline Fishu

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2003, 12:11:06 AM »
I'm not sure what do you think that qualifies as helping, but attacking countries with main reasons based on yet-to-be-proven things, doesn't qualify as helping for me.

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2003, 12:21:31 AM »
Why don't those handsomehunkes by some Sony Mini DVs.

Its less of a case of the Camera looking like an RPG than


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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2003, 12:42:56 AM »
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I'm not sure what do you think that qualifies as helping, but attacking countries with main reasons based on yet-to-be-proven things, doesn't qualify as helping for me.


Ahhh, I forgot the US let you in on what was a "main" reason and what was a "minor" reason.

There isn't anything Finland could do to help.  You're broke, and our girl scouts are tougher than your military.  Rather than admit you can't help, it's much easier to sit on the sidelines and denounce every conflict.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2003, 12:50:50 AM »
<--- looks at watch, waiting for obligatory story of how Finnish Sopwith Camels fought off hordes of Mig-21's.

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2003, 01:06:43 AM »
<--- Stares in wonderment, trying to figure out why anyone even pays attention to what Fishu blathers on about anymore.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2003, 01:09:08 AM »
Well, put some Finns into 109G2s and you'll see those Migs running!
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