I got my 17 group blown away on Baltic other night---got 2 of the attackers...was a third..he left as my final 17 tumbled to earth--i was about to bail, but decided to see if it would fly--BOTH wings shot off past the outboard engine, BOTH ailerons, rudder, 1 elevator, 1 engine lost...---flew the fediddlein thing 3 sectors and got a safe landing--im sure that last guy was waitin and WAITin fer the last kill;