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Zippatuh · « **Reply #60 on:** August 22, 2003, 08:53:55 AM »

Nothing but pit bulls huh. What’s wrong with that? They’re the most loving, kid friendly dog I’ve had and/or been around. Also, one of, if not the smartest and most trainable breed.

The CDC says that “pit bulls” are number one on the bite list. However if you dig into their own site they even acknowledge that the reports they have are not accurate since most people will classify any short hair wide head dog as a pit. They have even acknowledged that dogs not matching the descriptions of pits are classified that way because people now have it ingrained that it was a “pit” that bit my child. BS, most resources I’ve looked up say you have a better chance at getting snapped at by a cocker spaniels, and uh labs…

They are however dog aggressive, that much is true and hard to train out of them. But, they love people.

Oh, and the best BBQ is Stillwell due to the Mustard BBQ sauce. Fantastic. Ribs, I’ve gotten real partial to Lee’s Summit Smoke pit, but in the city… I’ll have to stick with smoke stack. And even then the one in Martin city

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Curval · « **Reply #61 on:** August 22, 2003, 09:14:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Zippatuh
Nothing but pit bulls huh. What’s wrong with that? They’re the most loving, kid friendly dog I’ve had and/or been around. Also, one of, if not the smartest and most trainable breed.

Zip, a friend of mine bred pits...I know all about them and was a HUGE defender of the breed, right up until his most "people friendly" females bit the guys daughter and ate part of the muscle in her arm. It was never established what caused the dog to lose it like that.

The CDC says that “pit bulls” are number one on the bite list. However if you dig into their own site they even acknowledge that the reports they have are not accurate since most people will classify any short hair wide head dog as a pit. They have even acknowledged that dogs not matching the descriptions of pits are classified that way because people now have it ingrained that it was a “pit” that bit my child. BS, most resources I’ve looked up say you have a better chance at getting snapped at by a cocker spaniels, and uh labs…

I have always had German Sheperds, I won't get one of those now because I am concerned about my kid's friends. All the Sheps I have had were protective in the EXTREME and the last thing I need is for a child to be over playing with my kids and the dog bite them...beautiful dogs, love the breed. But, I have to be smart about which one I get due to the kiddies. I have never known a well trained and well looked after lab who has bitten someone for no reason at all. I'm sure there are a few cases, but I haven't seen or heard of any.

They are however dog aggressive, that much is true and hard to train out of them. But, they love people.

Correct...but I have seen pits "snap" myself...not pretty and I am not going to take the risk. I also have seen what they can do to other dogs and I don't have time or the desire to try and train that out of my pet. It just isn't worth the risk

Zippatuh · « **Reply #62 on:** August 22, 2003, 09:53:35 AM »

I don’t like females in any breed. A male clipped is the easiest to control out of any of them in my opinion. Females are too unpredictable, moody, and stubborn.

This will probably have to be something that I experience myself but I fail to believe that my dog is going to “loose it” for some unknown reason and slaughter whatever is in sight. Although many people have told me so.

I also don’t believe that German Shepard’s are people friendly animals. Like pit bulls have been bread to fight other dogs, I think Shepard’s have been bread to be people aggressive.

I also don’t understand paying extreme amounts of money for an animal from a breeder. I’m more of pound/humane society pet finder. In your situation it may be different because of the lack of variety you said was there.

I work with two people who dropped good money, $1000-2000 on dogs they’re having problems with right now. Ones a lab, the others an Otter hound. The “papered” lab is having problems with the guys’ kids and property.

I found mine on the street… at the height of his training he know 32 different commands. He’s probably down to about 15 now from lack of work on the others and I’ve never had any problems with him other than being really excited around people.

Exposed fingers and toes will be licked!

midnight Target · « **Reply #63 on:** August 22, 2003, 10:02:31 AM »

My lab came from the pound. Was 3 yrs old and abandoned by his former owners due to lack of space (they lived in an apartment).

He is very loyal and loving and gentle (sort of... at 100 lbs. it's hard to be real gentle), and I'd trust him in a room full of 3 yr. olds.

Curval · « **Reply #64 on:** August 22, 2003, 10:24:04 AM »

Zip, couldn't agree more re adopting a dog, except you are correct..I called the SPCA yesterday and all they have are pits or pit crosses. (In fact they have two bull-dogs there right now...but I am just not a bulldog owner....too much slobbering and wheezing...drives me nuts).

My last dog was a shep mix, rescued from the Humane Society in Toronto. He was a nut-case to start with but became a loving member of my family. Of course you are also correct about their aggressiveness with humans. I had to pay a woman $2,500 in an out of court settlement when he bit her after she tried to push a flier through a screen door.

The area nurse also went home with two holes in her shorts years later after she tried to approach my son's crib two months after he was born, also. She never came back. He read her intentions wrong and was protecting my son.

Thus...I am not getting a Shep.

I think I am going to put my name down on the SPCA's wish list and see what happens. (I am still waiting on a call from the seeing eye dog people though.)

Who knows...I may adopt an older dog who won't have a second chance at life because he is too old for others to adopt.

We'll see.