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« on: August 21, 2003, 02:53:37 PM »
how about having bomb fuses for certain bombers set to there operational alt? I for one am realy fed up with these low level dweebs.. i would have them all above at least 8k..what say YOU?

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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2003, 03:18:04 PM »


You forgot to close the HTML tag on your comment, thought I'd help you out.
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Re: low lvl bomber nutz
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2003, 03:26:26 PM »
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
how about having bomb fuses for certain bombers set to there operational alt? I for one am realy fed up with these low level dweebs.. i would have them all above at least 8k..what say YOU?


Is love level bombing any worse than vultching? They are both simply highly effective and accurate ways of dispensing with yer enema.  

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Re: Re: low lvl bomber nutz
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2003, 03:49:45 PM »
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They are both simply highly effective and accurate ways of dispensing with yer enema.  

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Hmm...never knew it could do THAT...


A B-17 formation diving on a CV is just stupid, but something like an A20 should be used for low level bombing. I agree with the fuses or maybe making it impossible to drop rack-mounted bombs while in a dive.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2003, 05:32:07 AM by Inferno »

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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2003, 03:52:15 PM »
I think dive bombing a B17 or Lancaster is a bit gamey/dweebish but not a low lvl bomb run.

Then thats just my opinion and I am nobody.

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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2003, 05:43:46 PM »
just limit the angle of attack at which a level bomber can drop bombs.

Such as lanc and b17, any aircraft incapable of dive bombing.


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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2003, 06:09:25 PM »
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I think dive bombing a B17 or Lancaster is a bit gamey/dweebish but not a low lvl bomb run.

Then thats just my opinion and I am nobody.


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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2003, 06:46:30 PM »
Skurj, AoA is the angle at which the air is travelling over the wing. I believe you mean Pitch.

Air                wing
------->...... /____/
................./____/

(Observe my uber leet acsii skills)

That'd be AoA of a plane that just nosed down and had little vertical speed, of course the wing would be at less steep of an angle, but, you get the idea.. but once the aircraft picks up vertical speed, the air would be..

..air
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../..\........wing
..//......../____/
.//......../____/

.. Relative to the aircraft, so in a dive with enough speed, the AoA could normalize again..


Pitch..


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That is be the only angle a level bomber should be able to bomb at.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2003, 07:02:56 PM by Rutilant »

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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2003, 07:45:54 PM »
oops well maybe not...

how about limiting a level bombers ability to drop based on pitch/AoA  +)

Any angle over say + or under -20 deg (i dunno whats realistic) and bombs won't drop


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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2003, 12:10:32 AM »
How about forcing level bombers to only drop from bombsight?

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2003, 01:28:23 AM »
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How about forcing level bombers to only drop from bombsight?
great idea since i use the bombsight almost everytime.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2003, 04:12:54 AM »
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How about forcing level bombers to only drop from bombsight?


Nah, that would just have dweebs diving with their finger on the bomb drop button and another on f6.

Having a system where you can only drop your load when your between -10 and +10 degrees off level would be better imo.


Btw, could the ju88 drop its internal payload while in a dive, or only the wing mounted bombs?

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2003, 07:05:46 AM »
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Btw, could the ju88 drop its internal payload while in a dive, or only the wing mounted bombs?


Good question.

I don't see many "dive bombing" B-17s and Lancs tho I see plenty of "low and level" runs.  The 17 just doesn't dive well, nor does the Lanc or B-26.  The Ju88 dives brilliantly though as does the Boston/A-20.  

People complain about "suicide dweebs" but the vast majority of flights are not landed so I reckon if a guy chooses one plane over another to die in, it's his cabbage to shred.  That whole pitch differential of ten +/- degrees to bomb in 4 engined planes sounds good to me.  Also, no formation dive bombing.  Thus, if you want to DB in a Ju88 or Boston you have to specify that capability which limits you to one AC.

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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2003, 09:21:10 AM »
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how about having bomb fuses for certain bombers set to there operational alt? I for one am realy fed up with these low level dweebs.. i would have them all above at least 8k..what say YOU?
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2003, 11:31:08 AM »
Well the reason a Ju-88 dives so well is that it had dive bombing as a requirement by the RLM to perform that function as did nearly every German bomber.

One thing that I love seeing is a dweeb Lancaster coming in low over a base and then pulling up into a loop. Its called instant 3 kills by me. Just spray a few rounds on the drones and when they blow you get two kills and then the dweeb will be dying after falling under the massive hit percentage I miss with my Corsair. It must be some new Rookland kind of tactic that causes them to loose over half of their bombers on an attack. Because I don't remember seeing this dweeb tactic before the last few weeks.
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