Author Topic: The reason for no 'updates' (Read 931 times)

ALF · « **on:** August 29, 2003, 08:16:52 PM »

IMHO, the most obvious reason that we do not get weekly, or bi weekly updates from Dale and co are quite simple. The community, while full of support and fun, has a very nastey, and callous side. Any scap of information is taken by a few, perverted and twisted into a reason to complain, or at least create tension.

It is an unfortunate fact that while we all WANT to know whats going on....telling us would have little or no possitive effect, while each and every word would carry the real potential to erupt into a grand flame war. Anyone who has been here a while knows that even the most docile subjects can gain life of their own and quickly spiral into massive exchanges.

Ah well....thats my opinion

Halo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2003, 09:01:46 PM »

Your point is well taken, Alf. If you're going to get beat up no matter what you tell someone, why not just keep silent and avoid the pain?

I admit, though, I too am puzzled by the silence. Most Aces High participants can be proud of themselves for being good sports during this unprecedented period of not much new and not much in the way of status reports.

Of course, one reason we're good sports is because Aces High as is remains a fabulous bargain that is running really well and offers us almost infinite ways to enjoy ourselves.

Still, we can't just attribute the silence to the crew being too busy working on the revision/update/innovations. That pessimistic "So shoot me" at the bottom of the initial screen remains a tad worrisome, doesn't it.

I'm guessing that might have come from the pride of creating the cutting edge bomber change that was not as popular as the designers thought it would and should be.

Whether writer or painter or musician or computer game designer, few things are as personally difficult as offering your labor of love and sweat to the general public. You know you can't please everyone all the time, but your art demands you try anyway.

Aces High has become much like a rock band with its groupies. We dearly love what happens in our perpetual concert, and we'll wait as patiently as we can for the next new hit, trying not to distract the performers with our impatience, but still needing to be constantly entertained.

Now might be a good time for all of us to take a deep breath and vow to NOT rush in with endless nitpicking and criticism of things we don't like when Aces High II debuts.

Except for bug reports. And suggestions for improvements. Oh oh, there we go again.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2003, 09:50:59 PM »

Ive never been disapointed by a HTC update. As with every other update, minor or major, the 12 step program is usually the same:

1.) HTC announces plans for update.
2.) Crowd cheers.
3.) HTC answers a few questions.
4.) Crowd asks more questions.
5.) HTC does not answer.
6.) Crowd throws tomatoes, starts rumors of update not being on schedule.
7.) HTC does not respond.
8.) Crowd goes into panic, many players threaten to quit, some do.
9.) Update released.
10.) Crowd ellated.
11.) HTC addresses problems.
12.) Crowd starts 'What I dont like about update thread.'

Rinse and repeat.

Relax, AHII is probably going to be full of surprises you arent even expecting.

Christmas is no fun if you know what youre getting.

ALF · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2003, 10:02:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Halo
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I'm guessing that might have come from the pride of creating the cutting edge bomber change that was not as popular as the designers thought it would and should be.

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I think the bomber change has been a great success. As someone who bombed the hell out of the previous incarnation....and someone who is damned good at the current calibration system....I cant imagine a better way of doing things.
For the 1st time in my memory (which goes back to $6.95/hr air warior...eeeeek!)...flying a bomber successfuly requires some skill, and some planning. It still falls WAY short of the requirements of fighter planes, but we now have a system that rewards those who practice.

Sure there are a few vocal players who take each and every opportunity to critisize, comaplain and whine.....but the vast majority accept the bombers, and anyone who makes even a moderate investment in practice can become proficient. Its by no means perfect, but its the best Ive ever seen.

TheFox · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2003, 09:02:56 AM »

Spoke to Skuzzy in the MA yesterday - he confirmed 3rd Qtr release for the Beta version - so at worse, we only have a few weeks before we all know exactly what is going to be in AHII.

I guess a fully updated FAQ will be a bit pointless given the timescale, and possibly time consuming as well.

Personally, I would prefer to wait for the Beta.

SELECTOR · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2003, 01:54:16 PM »

Got to the point about a month ago where i gave up caring about the release..Will it , wont it.. few cheap screen shots. lots of people saying they are leaving..lots of good pilots left..
All im really saying it could have been handled a lot better..im not saying a HTC member should have been on line once a week answering questions, but an updated FAQ, and a biyt of news on the bbs would have gone a long way to smooth some of the ruffled feathers some people had..

SO heres to the release when ever it comes..

p.s if i dont like it will AH classic be free, or less subscription?

Nilsen · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2003, 01:59:55 PM »

Spot on Saurdukar.

Of course I would like updates to but im not frantic about it.

Whatever they do or don't there is gonna be whining of some sort.

SKurj · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2003, 02:17:39 PM »

It would be easy to post "updates" without leaving yourself open to this errmm "nasty" side..

SKurj

Nilsen · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2003, 02:19:52 PM »

You mean by closing down the BBS so nobody could comment? or close threads with critisism?

Pls explain Skurj

SKurj · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2003, 05:17:23 PM »

Well ok, I am sure this community can be critical of anything said but!!!

Something like I posted in another thread:

Weekly Update Aug 30, 03

HT: Working on particle effects, looking good, but along way to go
Super and Nate: Finished new model and skin of FW run90
Pyro: Finished F4f and Fm2 FM, moved on to F4u's

And why not just make it a restricted thread that only HTC can post to

SKurj

Nilsen · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2003, 05:22:03 PM »

Hmm, you are right.... cant see anyone whining about inf like that.

However when it comes to restricted threads it wont help, they will just start a whine thread somewhere else on this bbs

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2003, 07:33:28 PM »

Do you really expect a final release of AH2 for September, or even October???

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2003, 08:55:06 PM »

<--------------grade A+ moron. i saw HT today he was at operation iceberg for a few mins (after HT being an hour late)i should have asked him for updates

Bodhi · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2003, 09:23:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Ive never been disapointed by a HTC update. As with every other update, minor or major, the 12 step program is usually the same:

1.) HTC announces plans for update.
2.) Crowd cheers.
3.) HTC answers a few questions.
4.) Crowd asks more questions.
5.) HTC does not answer.
6.) Crowd throws tomatoes, starts rumors of update not being on schedule.
7.) HTC does not respond.
8.) Crowd goes into panic, many players threaten to quit, some do.
9.) Update released.
10.) Crowd ellated.
11.) HTC addresses problems.
12.) Crowd starts 'What I dont like about update thread.'

Rinse and repeat.

Relax, AHII is probably going to be full of surprises you arent even expecting.

Christmas is no fun if you know what youre getting.

So true Mazz, so true!

No appeasing this crowd...

ramzey · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2003, 09:58:45 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Ive never been disapointed by a HTC update. As with every other update, minor or major, the 12 step program is usually the same:

1.) HTC announces plans for update.
2.) Crowd cheers.
3.) HTC answers a few questions.
4.) Crowd asks more questions.
5.) HTC does not answer.
6.) Crowd throws tomatoes, starts rumors of update not being on schedule.
7.) HTC does not respond.
8.) Crowd goes into panic, many players threaten to quit, some do.
9.) Update released.
10.) Crowd ellated.
11.) HTC addresses problems.
12.) Crowd starts 'What I dont like about update thread.'

Rinse and repeat.

Relax, AHII is probably going to be full of surprises you arent even expecting.

Christmas is no fun if you know what youre getting.

hmm
HT is flying his plane all around:)
Pyro spending time in Vegas
Yankee shooping

Skuzzy track BB to show us HTC working hard
Superfly and Natedog not exist;)
AH2 is matrix;)