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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2005, 10:33:13 AM »
Read it.  It's out there.  As a purchaser you ARE allowed just one backup.  Of course, keeping them at "one" is tough.

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2005, 10:34:52 AM »
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Read it.  It's out there.


Ah... so I gather you've never actually seen this law.
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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2005, 10:50:14 AM »
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Read it.  It's out there.  As a purchaser you ARE allowed just one backup.  Of course, keeping them at "one" is tough.

Karaya



Not True. you can make as many backups of cds as you want as long as they are not protected... DVD's are a different case.


 http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/24/commentary/ontechnology/dvd_burning/

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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2005, 02:44:10 PM »
well consdiering they put their music on broken technology

(how many people have bought the same disc two times or more due to damage to the compact disc.. especially the old ones that get disc rot for breathing on them in the wrong manner.)

when alternatives like mini disc (cant be scratched lasts  the life of the music..) are squashed pretty much entirely in the USA...

the whole system is a scam..  screw the artists..   screw the customer..  no wonder they are facing backlash...

look how many executives are in that industry..  about 2/1 to every other industry on the planet (with exception to porn)

So you have a top heavy industry that screws both its vendors  (artists) and its customers (you) and wonder why they are sinking to the bottom..

dumbarses comes to mind  


The tribe has spoken, extinguish your torch RIAA......


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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2005, 09:10:36 PM »
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It's enough to drive a man to a jazz club.


And just what the shreck is wrong with a jazz club?

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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2005, 09:28:19 PM »
hehe, holy punted thread batman :)
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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2005, 09:32:59 PM »
The music industry was really really really stupid here.  Instead of embracing new technology and fighting piracy by offering a a better alternative they started suing their customer base.  Yes downloading and sharing copyrighted music is ilegal BUT even with napster they had a great oppertunity to offer a better more reliable service and they didn't.

When napster left there was a short void and they could have filled it but they are too money grubbing to care that their customers no longer wanted to pay $20 for a  10 cent piece of plastic.  

They movie industry is having the same problems and soon cable/tv networks will too with the advent of bit-torrent and Tivo.  people don't want to watch commercials and they don't want to watch a program when the network says they should.

Hopfully they will wisen up and realize that suing potential customers is not the way to entice more and embrace new technologies.

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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2005, 09:43:20 PM »
I've got one of those dvd players that has a hard drive and can record and burn dvds.  So what exactly are they going to do about those?  Make every movie on cable pay per view?  I can record all the high definition channels in dvd quality with the dolby 5.1 included.  

Seems like technology will win no matter what in the long run.  They will make things that supposedly can't be copied then someone will counter that with some new program or hardware.

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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2005, 10:20:10 PM »
There are so many things wrong with the music industry...

- they promote $$$ of art/entertainment. Not all artists get equal shots at fame
- out of whack profits the industry make (not necessarily the artists) are reflected in their lifestyles
- they failed to pass on the savings of CDs and DVDs to consumers
- they ignored the fledgling online music industry, turning their backs on what consumers were asking for
- they are trying to restrict and control music to unrealistic levels (like wanting you to buy a song each time you play it on a different media, ie 1 license for Mp3, 1 license for a CD, 1 for a DVD)
- even though they were dragged kicking and screaming into online music sales it still is not the ideal system

IF they had done the right things all the way through this mess would have been minimalised. Legal or not legal, the general public see it as a "victimless" crime against a monster industry that only cares about the bottomline, not what people want, and not about promoting all music.

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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2005, 01:54:39 AM »
Well said Vulcan.

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« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2005, 02:00:46 AM »
People that think it's okay to download music for free amaze me. It's stealing.

What right does anyone have to steal the work of artists, music companies, or whatever?

It's no different than pirating software.

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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2005, 02:13:48 AM »
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People that think it's okay to download music for free amaze me. It's stealing.

What right does anyone have to steal the work of artists, music companies, or whatever?

It's no different than pirating software.


Well said Nuke. What's laughable are all the excuses for their "free" music downloads. Anything more than free and they'll find a reason for their not paying for it.
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