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Offline Sandman

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« on: September 04, 2003, 12:45:38 PM »
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/09/03/BU249534.DTL&type=tech


So... music downloads are down 22% since the RIAA started their newest tactic of targeting individual users.

It appears that this didn't have the effect they intended on because the decline in CD sales actually accelerated.


Anyone else hear that sucking sound?
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2003, 01:07:07 PM »
"This is not a victimless crime; people are really suffering from the impact of peer-to-peer downloading," Sherman said.

LOL, i bet..RIAA must be crying a river for those poor artists, its them they care about.

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2003, 01:14:53 PM »
In response to the dwindling sales, the suggested retail price of CD's is suspected to cut around $6 from the current $18 SRP.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0209050010sep05.story?coll=chi-business-hed

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2003, 01:51:17 PM »
Poor RIAA....

Tell me again how file swappers like I was are the criminals?

Two years ago, a Federal Trade Commission inquiry prodded the recording industry to abandon a practice that authorities said was a not-so-subtle attempt at price fixing. In essence, the record labels were punishing the discounters by denying advertising subsidies to merchants who strayed below certain price levels.

That practice also led Eliot Spitzer, New York state attorney general, to file a lawsuit in August 2000 against the major labels and largest retail chains. Twenty-nine other states (California, a hub of the music industry, not among them) have joined the lawsuit, which has cited consumer damages of $480 million because of alleged price fixing. A spokeswoman in Spitzer's office said that a settlement will probably be announced this month.

When the CD arrived in the mid-1980s, many industry voices said that the new format would be cheaper to produce than LPs and tape cassettes (and, indeed, it costs about 40 cents to make a CD, and the packaging adds 25 cents to that) and that the savings would be passed on to retailers and consumers once the new format was phased in.

That, of course, never happened, and the industry had a historic windfall as fans replaced their vinyl collections.

That profit party was crashed, however, by a consumer revolt called digital download.

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Re: Downloads down 22%
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2003, 01:58:10 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/09/03/BU249534.DTL&type=tech


So... music downloads are down 22% since the RIAA started their newest tactic of targeting individual users.

It appears that this didn't have the effect they intended on because the decline in CD sales actually accelerated.


Anyone else hear that sucking sound?


BS the IRC networks are growing daily. Music leeching is outta control.  Monitor http://www.packetnews.com and you'll see . I think they are refering to the n00b programs like WinMx, and Kazza.

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2003, 01:59:29 PM »
IRC?

Whats that?

Offline Sandman

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2003, 02:14:58 PM »
Chat networks?
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Offline mora

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2003, 02:20:42 PM »
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Originally posted by CMC Airboss
In response to the dwindling sales, the suggested retail price of CD's is suspected to cut around $6 from the current $18 SRP.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0209050010sep05.story?coll=chi-business-hed

MiG


That is a price I might pay for a good record.

Offline LePaul

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2003, 02:23:46 PM »
Ain't slowed me down any :)

The article on Foxnews was interesting...here's the quote I liked best....

But industry critics say the record companies have, for more than a decade, ignored the effects of soaring CD prices on sales. They also contend the artistic quality of music has deteriorated.

"This is something that the industry has failed to address ... You could make downloading music go away tomorrow and the industry would still face challenges," said Sean Baenen, managing director of Odyssey, a consumer marketing research firm in San Francisco.

"All the data suggests that quality and price are major factors to the equation."

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2003, 02:24:01 PM »
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IRC?

Whats that?


Internet Relay Chat.

Offline Eagler

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2003, 02:24:33 PM »
saw this today:

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2003, 02:25:44 PM »
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Tell me again how file swappers like I was are the criminals?


Because you're copying intellectual property without a license.

Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2003, 02:35:35 PM »
And they're engaging in price fixing...

I'm freakin' Robin Hood of the Internet!

Remember 2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do...

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2003, 03:05:54 PM »
Yeah, I don't download music on Kazaa.  I also refuse to buy CDs until the RIAA stops being a bunch of bullying pudknockers.  Which probably means I won't be buying a CD for a looong time.

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2003, 06:37:47 PM »
wait a minute...sounds to me like the riaa has a monopoly on the music industry...thats not allowed is it???


(excuse my ignorance...)