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« on: September 04, 2003, 12:59:04 PM »
State: Girls Gone Wild Filmed at Least 35 Minors in Panhandle
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Published: Sep 4, 2003
 
PANAMA CITY, Fla. (AP) - The "Girls Gone Wild" staff filmed at least 35 girls exposing themselves during spring break in the Panama City Beach area, prosecutors said.
State Attorney Jim Appleman also said during a hearing Wednesday that additional charges are possible against the producer of the videos, who was arrested in April on racketeering and drug charges after parents complained to police he told underage girls to say on camera that they were 18.

If convicted of all charges, producer Joe Francis could face 30 years in prison.  Kiddie porn crime don't pay.

"We'll be able to prove our case," Appleman said during the hearing before Circuit Judge Michael Overstreet. Francis has maintained his innocence.

The video series that Francis created has made millions by filming college-age women revealing their breasts at parties and spring break sites.

Appleman said he is leery of turning over to the defense the tapes, which include the alleged minors performing sex acts, because it would be illegal for him to give contraband to anyone. Whoa, wait a minute.  Did he just try to justify the secrecy of his evidence?  How can the defense respond to the charges if they can't examine the evidence against them?

Defense attorney Jimmy Judkins argued that the tapes "contain a wealth of evidence that will exculpate Mr. Francis and will disprove the government allegation that Mantra Entertainment is a criminal enterprise."

Another defense attorney, Aaron Dyer of Los Angeles, asked that all "flashing" scenes on the tapes be declared legal. If all the scenes are legal, then there can't be a crime. Catch-22!

"It doesn't become child pornography when you're just dealing with nudity," Dyer said.

Overstreet rejected Appleman's argument, but will allow him to argue that the tapes are more obscene than similar materials accessible through retail outlets or online at a future hearing.

Francis' company, Mantra Films Inc., has disputed the charges, saying its crews always ask young women their age and film only those who say they are 18 or older.

The charges are based largely on about 175 hours of tapes Bay County sheriff's deputies seized during a raid at a condominium rented by the "Girls Gone Wild" staff.  I've read somewhere that the GGW staff entices the girls with drinks, rides in limosines, and trips on the corporate jet.

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2003, 01:02:18 PM »
"It doesn't become child pornography when you're just dealing with nudity," Dyer said.

lol, yes it is!! What an idiot.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2003, 01:06:13 PM »
Still waiting for them to come out with a "Middle Aged Beer Belly Men Gone Wild".

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2003, 01:35:43 PM »
I got a better idea. Put some movement sensors in the producers pants and show them videos with 16-year old girls taking their clothes off. If the sensor notices movement, immidiate execution would take place.

I would pass that test. Honest.

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2003, 01:44:00 PM »
Child porn?

Kinda like splitting hairs...18 year old flips her top...weee.  Girl says she's 18, flips top...weee.  Turns out she's 16 or 17...well, she just aint ripe yet but nice to admire  ;)

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2003, 01:49:11 PM »
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...well, she just aint ripe yet but nice to admire  ;)


Tell that to the judge. :D

p.s.  Is it safe to assume that you are not the father of any daughters?

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2003, 01:49:19 PM »
is it the original series or the new and improved Snoop Doggy Dog one?

:rolleyes:
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2003, 01:52:42 PM »
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/snoopggw1.html


"Snoop contended that the women voluntarily exposed themselves and "voluntarily consumed alcohol and other intoxicants" during the filming."

How could that possibly be true. Why would innocent 17-year old blond take voluntarily Class A drugs, especially when offered to get in a party with one of the most famous rapstars!?

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2003, 01:54:28 PM »
I for one am glad that any endeavor can be stifled through lawsuits!  I think the constant barrage of lawyers taking people to court makes our country better.

All of you who support this suit, hurray!  I really like the fact that this just reinforces the ideal that I can sue someone for doing something disrespectful like protesting something, looking at me a certain way, or even something as vile as disagreeing with me!
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2003, 02:17:43 PM »
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Tell that to the judge. :D

p.s.  Is it safe to assume that you are not the father of any daughters?


Ain't spread my DNA anywhere!    LOL

I'm sure Id think differently if I had kiddos...but for now, ignorance is bliss  lol

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2003, 02:25:24 PM »
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I for one am glad that any endeavor can be stifled through lawsuits!  I think the constant barrage of lawyers taking people to court makes our country better.


This isn't a civil lawsuit.  These are criminal charges.

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2003, 02:30:11 PM »
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"It doesn't become child pornography when you're just dealing with nudity," Dyer said.

lol, yes it is!! What an idiot.


So is Anne Geddes a mainstream kiddie pornographer?

Or an artist?

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2003, 03:06:07 PM »
Snoop Doggy Dogg's pimp hand is just too strong n' da man jus caint deal wid it, thats all :cool:
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2003, 04:30:42 PM »
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So is Anne Geddes a mainstream kiddie pornographer?

Or an artist?


lol, you go take pictures of naked under age girls, see if they call you an artist.
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