LOL when it gets to this point ???

[nopoop]

Amazing, had a decent night of fighting. Outnumbered but it was alot of fun. Take a break and figure one more sortie for the road..

Head towards a decent dar bar.  A_sector_and_a_half_away in a Spit V. One more to cap the night.

Upon arriving near the base what I found was this..

One spitty away from the base that my squadie killed..

AT the base..

Multiple GV's. Had to be to ten or twelve of them spawn camping all the runway spawn points including all the hangers just sitting and killing the planes as they appeared..

What was more interesting is that this MASS of GV's saw no reason to take out the Vehicle hanger......?

..as the mass of Panzers began to appear..

I don't understand.

I think I might be playing this game wrong.

Somewhere, somehow "score" became the endall or the "purpose". When score is only a number ( which it is ) the "number" has become the goal. In any way that it can be achieved. Whether it be spawn camping, gang banging or any other way that makes it "easier" to get that almighty score.

I would add that "winning" the reset through land aquisition tends to hold the same requirement. By any means possible.

It's becoming a trend that is infecting the population that is evident in what I saw tonight.

To the detriment of the game in total.

Aces High I "thought" was all about planes and air to air combat. It seems more than not, to becoming a game of score or "winning" by any means possible.

Enlighten me.

[Tarmac]

My tank will conquer your tool shed!

[Blooz]

Not everyone likes to pilot a plane I guess. A few like to do tanks and guns. I know that when I have a bad day and I'm too tired to fly straight, I'll man a gun. It's just sad that they had to set up the way they did to get their kills rather than bring an M3 to capture the field and move on. Rather than play for the team, they'd rather play for themselves I guess.

[Hap]

Originally posted by nopoop
I think I might be playing this game wrong.

I would add that "winning" the reset through land aquisition tends to hold the same requirement. By any means possible.

It's becoming a trend that is infecting the population that is evident in what I saw tonight.

To the detriment of the game in total.

Aces High I "thought" was all about planes and air to air combat. It seems more than not, to becoming a game of  "winning" by any means possible.

poke 'em in the eye: this tour, fly in such a way that you help your country lose.

[muckmaw]

It's not just the main, Pooper.

Last night, after reading so much positive info about the CT, I thought I would try it.

I up from the only base with action nearby, and find a guy named ***** camping the spawn in a tiger.

I gave him 2 kills before I got up. (All in all, had fun, but can't figure out how I racked up 8 kills in an hour...I thought the CT was populated by the best pilots...*shrug*)

Anyway, people seem to have forgotten this game is a hobby and it's all about fun. I'll never understand why people a) Spawn camp B)Dive bomb Lancs C)Hack games

These are just a few things I don't understand. It's the spirit of the game and the fun had playing it that counts. Not score, or rank, or resets, or reverence.

Perhaps the people that do these things are having fun, but it's not my idea of a good time.

Example: Last night I took a beautiful 24 bomber raid with escort to bomber 2 Strat targets. We banged the bish Infantry center to 9% and the city to 11%. I knew all along it would have no effect on the outcome of the reset, but it was fun for us. To watch all those bombers flying in formation, to work as a team and to see those bombs impact all at once, was a blast!

I was a little disappointed that the we did not get swarmed by interceptors. (Only saw 4) but the point it is, we did it for nothing more than fun. That's what I pay my 15 bucks a month for.

[Westy]

"Enlighten me."

 WWIIO blew chunks so bad it never drew that crowd away from AH to it.    The "We gotta War to win!" generalZ and shed terrorists remain.

[Furball]

Most fun i have is in CT (even if it does include getting killed by a hoarde eh mr.muckmaw?!)  or defending against cv attacks in my trusty Hurricane IIC.  

Too many newbs and just plain idiots in this game, seems every opponent i come across just wants to HO me then run.

[DmdNexus]

There's a certain morbid pleasure in blugeoning baby seals with clubs as they come out of the hanger and spawn on the run way.

Unable to defend them selves. No chance at all of survival. Brutally mutilated and slaughtered, time after time...

Thus is the pleasure of the spawn camper.... give no mercy, kill until the trigger clicks empty.

Some how there's an overwhelming sense of great accomplishment when one lands 21 kills.

Is this any different than what was going on 13 years ago in AH, and WB?

Nope.

The game hasn't deteriated... this is how it has always been.

There's no enlightment here...wake up and smell the coffee!

[Rude]

For me, AH used to be a air to air combat sim....now it's more like an arcade game.

To be fair, I doubt that a single purpose air to air combat sim would cashflow....it is about making money and I can't blame HTC for anything they have done or will do.

[lazs2]

If HTC is making money then you can't blame em.   I reloaded ammo last night.. going to the range today.

You learn to appreciate the great furballs or get frustrated.
lazs

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Furball
Most fun i have is in CT (even if it does include getting killed by a hoarde eh mr.muckmaw?!)  or defending against cv attacks in my trusty Hurricane IIC.  

Too many newbs and just plain idiots in this game, seems every opponent i come across just wants to HO me then run.

The same thing happened when AW went to AOL, and again when AW shut down on AOL and the players moved to GameStorm. The estabished players complained about the idiots. Some Vets quit, and others started training the newbies. Many of those seals are now established players in AcesHigh, complaining about the idiots.

AcesHigh is great. You can find all types of game play there. If you want to fight an established player, you can generally find them circling at 15-20K over a contested airfield, snapping up unwary loners. But they'll come down when the vulching starts.

[Zippatuh]

Have I told anyone that my golf handicap has dropped about 10 strokes this year?

Not to mention going up one class in the PPC match.  It’s good to have hobbies.

Oh yeah, and raise the price back to $30.

[JimBear]

Find the fun where I can.  Fly when I can, joystick messed up drive a GV.
 Sick of the idea of getting in a Vehicle last night I went to a capped and virtually destroyed base. Tried to get in a field gun and accidently found myself in a shore battery. No fleet in sight so I sat and watched the vultch action and Typhoons and 51s pounding on the town. Off in the distance low I see a dot resolve into a C-47 as it touches down and rolls to a stop in the city, I slew the gun all the way over and pop off one shore battery round. Poof, no more Goon. Had to giggle over that awhile  

[-sudz-]

Heya Nopoop - back to your original request for enlightenment.

AH is a game of skill and, as such, most players _want_ a metric by which they can measure their improvement.  I remember the days before the score was implemented - the message board was flooded with score-keeping requests.  

It's understandable, really: how can you discover if you've made Big Time pilot status if you can't compare your performance with the known big-shots.  (Especially if they're in a different time zone or the same country and you never fight them.)

The fallout of implementing score has been two-fold:  pilots would sometimes find themselves enjoying bragging rights a little more than the game itself, and good pilots, who never cared about score (they have no doubts about their skill level), found themselves dogfighting a new type of opponent - the score hound.

It's a minor dilema in the scope of things, but if you want to resolve it you'd have to propose a solution which allows pilots struggling to improve some kind of metric. The "solutions" I've seen proposed mostly involve someone else changing their behavior. (Count on that happening tomorrow and all over the world!)

If you want to pursue this to _your_ satisfaction, I'd suggest finding a way to group the true dogfighters into one part of the arena.  Perhaps a standing gentlemen's agreement that the southermost, closest opposing fields are always selected by anyone interested in dogfighting.  

One caveat, though, keep it secret from the rest of the community (invite only serious dogfighters you know).  'Cause there are alot of pilots who get even more fun griefing the 'elitists'.

- sudz

[Furball]

Fun = stuff like this