Author Topic: More idiocy out of Florida (Read 1242 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #30 on:** September 14, 2003, 06:30:27 PM »

There are a lot of retirees in California too.

But all of THEIR parents moved to Florida.

SaRCaP · « **Reply #31 on:** September 15, 2003, 04:39:27 AM »

I live in the southwest (AZ) and personally this is all a mess.

You speak of being racial to particular a culture, I say its patriotic.
This may not be so in other regions of the united states but in the regions of the southwest,south and southeast I ask you this,
"When are you going to take your country back?"

In example, The job market is nill in the Sw due to the amount of Illegal workers crossing the borders, they get paid below minimum wage but none the fact they take jobs and we are letting them. And who suffers? Americans do! citizens who cant find a job because Mr.Martinez will work under the table for 2 dollars less than minimum wage!

Now say someone sat at the desert border (non goverment conroled) with a rifle and took out anyone who tried to cross Illeally.What would happen? I'll tell you the goverment would prosocute them for murder. Why? Becase supposedly these people have rights...there is something wrong here..They have none they are not a citizen of this country and they have none! I'm a citizen and I have the right to happiness but I cant because the goverment is giving the same rights to the people who are not entitled to it, Just because the can run,swim or jump over the border!

Another thing to those who are here legally.What is this I hear about Bi-lingual education? How did they become a citizen if they can't speak english!? Last time I checked the prominet lanugage in american is english..and last time I checked the sw is a part of america. Give me one good reason why should we adapt to them?! They came here! We didnt go to mexico or wherever they may originate and said "Cmon to America you will like it here!" Now you see it everywhere everything in english has a spanish translation right next to it. Canada may like it that way but this is my country. Hey I got an Idea why dont we all go buy residents in Germany and complain and demand that our children be taught in english in THEIR school systems, that sounds like a grand idea!

We are being invaded for years now we have! and we have let it happen if it continues your children will tell their children(In spanish ofcourse) about a day long ago when we spoke english and was taught in it,That it was the majority spoken language in the desert. Are you willing to take a stand? and protect your country,state,city? I am and I hope you are aswell.

You can call me ignorant, Thats your right as a American
You can look down upon me, Thats your right as a American
You can disagree with me. Thats your right as a American
But you can't take this belife from me.
That's America,Your America, My America,Our America.
Protect these rights that many men have died for.

Thank you and God be with you whomever you hold that to be.

Scootter · « **Reply #32 on:** September 15, 2003, 06:51:15 AM »

SarCap,

The dry-cleaner called, your sheet is ready to be picked up!

BTW are you as pissed at the guy who pays "Mr. Martinez" two bucks less then min. wage? Seems to me he is the problem.

Bodhi · « **Reply #33 on:** September 15, 2003, 07:41:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Scootter

BTW are you as pissed at the guy who pays "Mr. Martinez" two bucks less then min. wage? Seems to me he is the problem.

Yes, he is the problem, but do not forget, that when "Mr. Martinez" shimmied under the fence, rode in the secret compartment in the trunk, or walked / swam across the Rio Grande (take your pick) he broke the law, and is just as guilty.

I have no problem with who emmigrates to this country, but I do have a problem with illegals. If you want to be here, either come legally or be fortunate enough to be born here.

Ohh, and for the idgit wondering whether everyone who questions immigration is American Indian, Yes, I carry more than a third Cherokee Blood in my veins as well as a third Mohican.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #34 on:** September 15, 2003, 07:56:35 AM »

As long as their are American businesses (or Senators for that matter

) will to hire illegals for $2 an hour, there will always be those who harbor ill feelings towards our Friends from the South. Point the finger at the American that hires them for they are too cheap to pay minimum wage to those who are in this country legally.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #35 on:** September 15, 2003, 08:00:01 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
Another fine example of a Bush run government.

I think you failed to read the story. Here's just an excerpt.

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DOBBS: The state government says you can do it. The courts say you can't. In fact, you're in danger of being foreclosed upon. Gov. Jeb Bush has come to your assistance. The Florida attorney general has done so. Why are you in this situation tonight?

ANDRES: Because judges don't want to go by what the state statutes say. And the judge who found against me on the foreclosure is adding a new bracket to the state law, the Constitution. And I don't know how he's doing it. But the state attorney general, Charlie Crist, is going to go into court next week and try and find out.

Scootter · « **Reply #36 on:** September 15, 2003, 08:00:02 AM »

Bodhi,

I do not disagree with you, but like drugs they would not come here if there was no work for them.

Do you think they would walk, run crawl here just to starve?

We the people in this country want cheap labor and that helps us make a buck. If no one would hire them with out proper INS papers I really think the problem would stop. If the laws for there hire were stiffer perhaps company’s would think twice. Just realize that costs would go up quite a bit especially in home construction. I run a home construction company and many of the subcontractors labor are illegal but people want cheap labor and the white boys here don't want to hot tar a roof in 100+ temps.

I see no real end to this any time soon.

By the way they are real good folks, with strong family values. I really enjoy trying to learn their language, they know mine much better then I speak theirs. I work with them almost every day but they work for my subcontractors, I really have no other options as there is no one else to do the work, and the make good money most average over 12 bucks an hour and up.

No one in the construction industry makes min. wage. in Fl. the demand for work is sky high and not enough bodes to fill the positions.

drone · « **Reply #37 on:** September 15, 2003, 09:44:45 PM »

agree with ya in most of that scooter......

Everyone needs to remember that this has been a discussion in this country for over a hundred years. Everytime a group has come to this country they have faced prejudice and have been given a hard time. Look at the all the european imigrants, the far east, the indias and africa. This country has always had imigration. The one thing that leveled the playing field for them all has been the fact that their children, at least, had to learn the language. In the latino culture though the attitude is that we need to learn spanish..... How many times has some looser congress person (usually of latin decent) tried to have the spanish language declared the national language of America?

3 times that I'm aware of........It came close the last time...It was attached as an amendment to a bill that was going to be passed. Thank goodness a few of our legislators still read the whole thing, they caught it in time and now there is a watchdog group keeping an eye out for these things. Guess I dont have to tell you which state it came from.

I personaly dont think shooting them all is the answer but having b-lingual teaching with my tax dollar is bull........If ya want to live in my country pay the taxes and learn the language.

If a private company wants to cater to a dual-language product thats fine, so is my right to not purchase said product whenever possible.

BTW if there is one ethnic group in this country that has a "right" to complain about anything though it is the American Indian.

Everybody else and their ethnic crap can "put" it somewhere else

DoctorYO · « **Reply #38 on:** September 16, 2003, 01:27:48 PM »

This guy in the story is a complete idiot.
Not Florida. If your pro fly a flag in a HOA (home owners assc)and they have bylaws against such then your wrong...

You say that communist DoctorYo is loony.. well guess again... this guy by purchasing his house apartment whatever, joined the homeowner association when he closed.. (his realestate agent should have explained this to him) and in doing such must abide by the rules/by laws set forth by such association.. or face civil law..

hence he waived his rights...

Now if the Homeowners assoc was smart they would have say at least 12-24 letters to this guy (1 per month) saying please abide by the by laws. This moron most likely said screw you assoc(without doing his research) and go %%%% yourself... and in doing such is now facing the legally binding document the by laws...

Now my personal opinion is this case has gone too far; but at the same token if this guy has been hostile since 1999 then enough is enough I would sue him too..

As long as you can provide that you exhausted all other means to get this guy to comply then what other recourse do you have with him, nothing...legally that is..

take his money ... and recoupe the legal fees. I think its a viable tactic... (love muffin wanted a fight and he got one, now hes losing and is venting to the press)

As usual the media doesn't do their research either and the article is biased for the moron... like his rights are being trampled on when he waived them..

The real losers in this story are the other HOA members caught in the middle, for they most likely foot the bill for legal fees upfront until dust has cleared..

My 2 cents

DoctorYo

"Im pro flag but I think there is lot more to this episode that the press isn't covering..."

gofaster · « **Reply #39 on:** September 16, 2003, 02:49:53 PM »

As Deep Throat said in "All The President's Men"...

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Follow the money.

Something tells me there is more at contention than a flag pole. I'm hoping somebody can ferret it out.

Curval · « **Reply #40 on:** September 16, 2003, 03:09:33 PM »

I'm moving out of my condo because I am soooo sick and tired of a bunch of people who have nothing better to do than throw around the little weight they have because they are in a position of "power".

Just before the hurricane hit my wife had a bunch of her family staying with us. There was so many people in the kitchen cooking non-stop in the summer that the kitchen was really hot. We couldn't install one of those split a/c units because of the dimensions..so I bought a window a/c unit.

It took only two days for an e-mail to show up from the property manager pointing out the bye-law rule that states no window unit air conditioners. I was told, in no uncertain terms, to remove it.

Ironically Geoffrey Bird, who will take ownership of the unit soon, checked into the total insured value of the whole development in his due diligence prior to the sales agreement and it turns out the whole development is way underinsured..thankfully the entire devlopment withstood Fabian...(cudos to Mr. Bird, who WAS the developer when they were built).

My point is this:

HOAs or condo boards are greatly concerned by the stupid small issues that crop up, such as this...but in many cases they omit to do the job well that they were elected to do in the first place.

Preventing an American from flying his country's flag on HIS property in HIS country is really, really pathetic and this HOA should be ashamed of themselves.

drone · « **Reply #41 on:** September 16, 2003, 04:47:00 PM »

Just an update --the man won in court, the florida supreme court says that it is his right to fly an american on his property as long as it abides by local law. The court has decided that anyone can fly an american flag....To heck with the HOA.....

The problem has occured because the HOA in a petty way has decided to sue this man for court costs that the HOA incured during the trial. IMO they should not be awarded anything since they lost. Unfortunately the court did award the cost, around 25,000, to the HOA.....It will be appealed but his house will be sold on the 9th of October if a bond is not taken out at the courthouse. The man has a lot of "friends" now and I wouldnt worry about him losing his house, it wont happen. What the HOA has done is piss off several people who will now raise their own flags in the subdivision......WTG HOA lol

The HOA as not brought into being to nit-pik people to death, the only reason there is and should be a HOA is to insure that property values arent lowered due to junk cars in the yard, lawns and yards not taken care of, buildings being built that shouldn't be there, businesses operating out of the home that induces to much traffic.