Knights have CV protection down to a science

[davidpt40]

Knights have excellent cv defense.  Friday morning was the second time that I had the pleasure to fly fleet-defense with other knights.  CV82 was attacking a bishop base when all of a sudden the radar map lights up with red dots converging on the task force.  

I launched an F4U4, 50% fuel from the CV to intercept the bogeys.  Before I reached 15k, at least 5 bishop aircraft had attempted to divebomb the carrier.  But the CV was still floating.

It was a massive on-going battle, and I had to land to rearm/refuel at least 4 times.  Heres two of the hairiest moments I had:

Was chasing a much higher BF-110.  He starts his dive directly above me.  I roll my F4U4 inverted and aim at the CV.  I had to have been in this guys gunsights, but over shoots me.  My airspeed indicator is at 550 and climbing.  The 110 appears in my sights for the briefest of moments and I open up with six 50cal machine guns.  His tail section breaks off and he falls into the sea.  He did not manage to drop his bombs and we were below 3k when I killed him.

I was at 15k when someone reports a low b26 formation heading for the CV.  I enter into a steep dive and am already compressing when I spot the B26.  He is already passing by the escort ships and is about 4 seconds away from dropping bombs.  I do my best to point my nose at him, and at about 575mph, I fire and hit his right wing root.  His plane falls sideways into the sea.  The CV is saved

So in the end, I managed to get about 10 kills, 5 other knights were patrolling the skies, and we managed to capture the enemy field.  WTG KNIGHTS!

Knights seem to always have volunteers who will either man the AA guns or climb to intercept very high aircraft.  This was lacking when I was a bishop.

[Overlag]

but when knights have 50 players all is lost..........

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Overlag
but when knights have 50 players all is lost..........

No it's not. We have great fun, can fly the best planes really cheap, and get tons and tons of perkies. It's when we are reduced to a few bases that all is lost.

Knights are really getting good at defense!

[Crowwe]

We have enough time in that position to practice

Originally posted by Grizzly
Knights are really getting good at defense!

[Warchief]

I sat back and watched the knights CV get sunk by just 2 bishop formations of bombers.  The bishops used 2 form. of Lancasters, I should know I was in one. Me and a squad mate got all 6 bombers into the excorts before we were fired on and we sank the carrier. The only thing we encountered was AAA and there was knights all over the place. So sating the knights have great CV protection then how did 6 bombers make it through all you defenses and sink your carrier with no threats from the aircraft all around us.

[Grizzly]

Originally posted by Warchief
I sat back and watched the knights CV get sunk by just 2 bishop formations of bombers.  The bishops used 2 form. of Lancasters, I should know I was in one. Me and a squad mate got all 6 bombers into the excorts before we were fired on and we sank the carrier. The only thing we encountered was AAA and there was knights all over the place. So sating the knights have great CV protection then how did 6 bombers make it through all you defenses and sink your carrier with no threats from the aircraft all around us.

You actually only needed one formation. I think Lancasters are the most affective way to sink CVs.

The planes are usually not high enough and unable to intercept out far enough to stop bomber formations. Of course, it would be good to have a cap set up for defense, but that takes teamwork and that doesn't often happen in knight land.

It is very hard for a ship gunner to kill a high buff formation before it drops its bombs. Even if the gunner can routinely range the buffs that far out, it takes so many hits to take out a buff they usually get their bombs off. The only reliable way to defend against bomber formations is to turn the ship, and the person commanding the fleet often doesn't do it in time.

[muckmaw]

I routinely sink Bish/Rook CV's using a lone flight of B-26's from 6-8k.

I almost never encounter fighter cap, even at this relatively low altitude, and I would estimate the CV group makes evasive turns, about 25% of the time.

Turning the CV is the most effective way to thwart my efforts, as I have to guess at where the bombs will land and where the CV will be 20-30 seconds after I drop.

IF you want you CV to go to the bottom, by all means, keep it going straight. I almost never miss in these occasions.

[trolla]

Originally posted by muckmaw
I routinely sink Bish/Rook CV's using a lone flight of B-26's from 6-8k.

I almost never encounter fighter cap, even at this relatively low altitude, and I would estimate the CV group makes evasive turns, about 25% of the time.

Turning the CV is the most effective way to thwart my efforts, as I have to guess at where the bombs will land and where the CV will be 20-30 seconds after I drop.

IF you want you CV to go to the bottom, by all means, keep it going straight. I almost never miss in these occasions.

1 group of 26`s sinking a cv group (dweeeeeebish)
well that is the game but in the real world that did not work very well did it ?

[F4UDOA]

The hard thing about fleet defense is you can CAP at 15K and never see the torpedo bombers sink your fleet. You definitely can't do it yourself.

A couple good ships gunners, a couple high C-Hogs and some Zealous dogfighters down low will do the trick.

My two cents;)

[muckmaw]

Why would that be Dweebish?

I level bomb a moving target with 12,OOO lbs of Bombs. What's Dweebish?

Real world?

Since when has Aces High had anything to do with the real world?

Would you feel better if I dropped an extra 12,000 lbs of ordinance around the CV?

I must have missed something here.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by F4UDOA
The hard thing about fleet defense is you can CAP at 15K and never see the torpedo bombers sink your fleet. You definitely can't do it yourself.

A couple good ships gunners, a couple high C-Hogs and some Zealous dogfighters down low will do the trick.

My two cents;)

I've never even hit a ship with a torpedo.I think I read somewhere that to compress time and increase speed of the CV's they move at 3 times real speed, while torpedos move at the real life speed.

[gofaster]

At least the CVs move in this game.  In "Air Warrior" they stayed perfectly still.

[Warchief]

Yeah you could turn the ship. But that wont work against my squad. Our typical anti-ship package includes 2-4 formations of lancasters. We do NOE from long ranges. Alot of time we are thought to be torp planes and left to ship gunners. And the gunners on thisp can only knock a couple and few bobmers get there regardless to drop there payload.

[Mini D]

Originally posted by muckmaw
I've never even hit a ship with a torpedo.I think I read somewhere that to compress time and increase speed of the CV's they move at 3 times real speed, while torpedos move at the real life speed.

I believe they move at 25 knots... about real speed.

It's just hard to hit a CV that is either driving away from you or turning with torpedos since they have to be in the water for so long.  I don't know what was most effective against CVs.... bombs from fighter/bombers or torps from them.  I believe the torps would only be effective as a suprise (like from a sub) or against a dead in the water or pre-occupied ship.

MiniD

[muckmaw]

Mini-

I could have sworn I read somewhere on these boards that the CV group actually outruns torps.

It had something to do with time compression, and a game play concession to get the CV in position faster.

Someone of experience in the game said you could fire a torp dead six into a CV from 5 feet behind it, and it will never catch it.

Maybe true, maybe not...I jsut read it here on the BBS awhile ago.