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Offline straffo

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2003, 02:18:02 PM »
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The Iraqi people are not from Vietnam and have a completely different culture compared to Vietnam. For that reason alone I am thinking the outcome will not be the same or similar to what happened in Vietnam.

True, the Shiites, Kurds, and Sunni's have been fighting much longer.



Not quite true , the vietnamese were not homegeneous either ,the Th'ai ,'Mong  and other montagnard were not pro vieth-minh

I admit it's not what you wanted to say :) it's just to show a counterpoint

fek ... after reading my post I wonder why you don't speak French a  language were contradiction is part of the language :D

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2003, 02:20:55 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2003, 02:21:01 PM »
True Russia and China are not involved, BUT Syria and Iran (among others) are.
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neither have nuclear arsenals (currently).  Russia and China were threatening a global war over Vietnam (and Korea for that matter)


It is not divided into 2 sections, it is divided into 3.
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Yes, but none of those three sections have differing ROE.  Correct me if I am wrong.


Communisim is not, but Islamic extreemists are.
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Agreed.  Not sure if the obvious difference would have a greater or lessor impact on the combatants.  I tend to think the islamic culture is fond of trading loyalties, depending on demonstrated strength and weakness.  A much more complex beast.


True, the Shiites, Kurds, and Sunni's have been fighting much longer.
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Yes, but these conflicts are more tribal than idealogical or theological and are more prone to a bartered form of coexistance.  We shall see who has the smarts in Iraq.

So we didn't stay in Vietnam long enough?
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I think we should have prevailed over North Vietnam long before the 1975 retreat.  It is almost too sad to bother with except that if one lesson is culled from the tragedy of Vietnam it should be this one:  If you start it, finish it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2003, 03:15:14 PM »
Wrong century... wrong country...

Philippines... 1898-1902.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2003, 05:23:52 PM »
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Maybe get the support of the UN before invading as we did in the Gulf War.

From The Washington Post


Could be just a political ploy.