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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2003, 08:30:42 AM »
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If today's September 9th, and yesterday was September 8th, why is it the 4th of July instead of July 4th?


I believe they are one in the same

We can call them by both dates here in the States and not become confused :)
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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2003, 08:42:00 AM »
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We have machines to put it in bags Boroda-it doesn't matter how you write it, and if you know the complete postal code, it can be delivered with nothing but 9 digit number.


We have such machines for maybe 30-40 years by now. The letters are sorted by "postal index", a 6-digit number of the post office. They have some sort of OCR for index field on envelope. But it applies only to letters inside USSR (I don't know if post-Soviet countries use the same index numbers).

Russia adopted the same wierd way of writing adresses few years ago, so it makes me wonder how I should write my adress, house 98, building (korpus) 1, flat 70: in an old way (98-1-70) or in a new way: 70-1-98. There is a chance that someone from house 70, building 1, flat 98 will get my letters  :eek:

I can't remember when I sent my last letter on paper.

BTW, do you still have telegraph? It was usefull when you needed to inform someone fast when you are in a place where phone is unsavailible or takes several hours to order a conversation with other city. I usually used telegrams informing my relatives that I am OK when hiking sonewhere really far away in the mountains or taiga, when we had a village on our way.

There was a joke about people who went rafting and drowned all their money, so they had only a few coins for a two-word telegram, so they sent a message saying "seventyfiverublegraph us". ;) (семидесятипятирублируйте) :D
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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2003, 08:44:06 AM »
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hey

we measure in inches and feet too :)


So do we, it's just our government that doesn't.


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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2003, 09:17:23 AM »
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Is this true?

Great Britain date time format is dd/mm/yyyy
USA date time format is mm/dd/yyyy

If so ... WTF why?


I think it reallly depends on what industry you're in. For USN, DDMMMYY (09SEP03) is quite common.

Take a look at date/time formats for Outlook and Palm. There are so many different variations that I doubt there is a standard at all.
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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2003, 09:18:37 AM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
We have such machines for maybe 30-40 years by now. The letters are sorted by "postal index", a 6-digit number of the post office. They have some sort of OCR for index field on envelope. But it applies only to letters inside USSR (I don't know if post-Soviet countries use the same index numbers).

Russia adopted the same wierd way of writing adresses few years ago, so it makes me wonder how I should write my adress, house 98, building (korpus) 1, flat 70: in an old way (98-1-70) or in a new way: 70-1-98. There is a chance that someone from house 70, building 1, flat 98 will get my letters  :eek:

I can't remember when I sent my last letter on paper.

BTW, do you still have telegraph? It was usefull when you needed to inform someone fast when you are in a place where phone is unsavailible or takes several hours to order a conversation with other city. I usually used telegrams informing my relatives that I am OK when hiking sonewhere really far away in the mountains or taiga, when we had a village on our way.

There was a joke about people who went rafting and drowned all their money, so they had only a few coins for a two-word telegram, so they sent a message saying "seventyfiverublegraph us". ;) (семидесятипятирублируйте) :D


I'm always amazed at the lengths Baroda will go to, just to be able to say something negative about the US in a backhand way.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2003, 09:25:46 AM »
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I'm always amazed at the lengths Baroda will go to, just to be able to say something negative about the US in a backhand way.


I'm always amazed how Mratlet sees "anti-americanism" in any post that I make.

What am I supposed to do? Finish every post with "God bless America!"?...
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2003, 09:29:47 AM »
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I'm always amazed how Mratlet sees "anti-americanism" in any post that I make.

What am I supposed to do? Finish every post with "God bless America!"?...


Hes just looking for attention and goes around stirring up foreigners, to get some attention from the fellow americans.
Everyone gets their kicks in a different way :D
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2003, 09:34:53 AM »
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Hes just looking for attention and goes around stirring up foreigners, to get some attention from the fellow americans.
Everyone gets their kicks in a different way :D


At least I can always find a good excuse for my BBS posts: I practice my English ;)
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2003, 09:38:42 AM »
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I'm always amazed at the lengths Baroda will go to, just to be able to say something negative about the US in a backhand way.


:rolleyes:
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2003, 09:38:50 AM »
In Sweden you can write :

Stockholm
Mr Sven Andersson
The tall buildings up to the right

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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2003, 11:04:09 AM »
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At least I can always find a good excuse for my BBS posts: I practice my English ;)



It works your English is quite good,

We, as a people are really quite nice, and as you, not as bad as others would have us believe.

I still think I would like to have a tall cold vodka with you and we could solve all the worlds problems, we need to take some time to understand each other and what is the cause of our differences. This could be applied to our leaders as well, don't you agree?
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2003, 12:02:26 PM »
Boroda: The worst thing about Western standards is that they write adresses backwards, like "flat, house, street, city, country"...
 I simply can't usnderstand why they do so... :rolleyes:

 Simple.
 Western is the natural way of thinking. I communicate with a particular human and only then care about his geographical circumstances.

it's seems to be easier:
Ok, it's Russia (puts a letter into a bag with other letters to Russia).

 Easier for the mailman, harder for me.
  As for the mailman's convenience in reading the address, I could not care less about it. He works for me and is serving my needs for the fee I am paying him. He is subservent to me in this case (I may later be serving him dinner dessert-first and saying "yes, sir" if he so wishes for his money).
 Unless a delivery company offeres me a significant discount for whiting an address backwards from what is natural to me, why would I bother accomodating it?

 Of course it is/was different in Soviet Russia where the "customer" was subordinate to the service provider and had to jump through all kinds of hoops to accomodate it.

 Read "Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman. That may help you break that collectivist mold on your mind.

 miko
« Last Edit: September 09, 2003, 12:08:36 PM by miko2d »
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2003, 12:06:31 PM »
Eagler: we measure in inches and feet too :)

 That one I agree with - total lunacy. Screwing up one's life just to be different from the French is plain stupid.

 95% of US high school graduates do not know how many feet are in a mile or how many ounces are in a gallon.

 Would not help them if they knew, since they cannot do arithmetics anyway.

 miko
« Last Edit: September 09, 2003, 12:14:05 PM by miko2d »
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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2003, 12:21:35 PM »
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Eagler: we measure in inches and feet too :)

 That one I agree with - total lunacy. Screwing up one's life just to be different from the French is plain stupid.

 95% of US high school graduates do not know how many feet are in a mile or how many ounces are in a gallon.

 Would not help them if they knew, since they cannot do arithmetics anyway.

 miko


I'd love to see where you pulled those statistics from.
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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2003, 12:39:52 PM »
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 Of course it is/was different in Soviet Russia where the "customer" was subordinate to the service provider and had to jump through all kinds of hoops to accomodate it.

 Read "Free to Choose" by Milton Friedman. That may help you break that collectivist mold on your mind.


Please, can you answer me, if I give someone my adress as "70-1-98 XXXXXXXXX highway, 123456, Moscow, Russian Federation" - who will recieve the letter, me or a guy from house 70, building 1, flat 98? :(

For me it's natural and easy to think where I send this letter. The adress must begin with the country, and the location/name must be at the end. This is the natural way to erite adress. When I want to write to my cousin - first thing that comes into my mind is that he lives in the Ukraine, then - in Chernovtsy, and then I remember street, house and flat. Exactly in this order.

When you ask for directions, what do you ask first? "I need a flat number 3" or "Please show me the way to Kiev"?

Calling me a "collectivist" is funny :)

Что-то у меня с чувством юмора. Пожалуйста, прости дурака, если шутишь - ставь смайлики. :( Если ты шутил - то получилась забавная пародия на чучело с Кустом на аватаре. Только поймут ли? ;)
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