Author Topic: Downloading Songs (good or bad) (Read 647 times)

Chaos68 · « **on:** September 09, 2003, 02:35:41 PM »

Do you guys think that Napster and Kazza is wrong? or the people who Download them is breaking the law?

I heard a 12 year old girl was busted by RIAA for downloading songs off kazza.

I dont think its wrong, the record company busts our balls already with the amout of money we pay for a CD.

SunKing · « **Reply #1 on:** September 09, 2003, 02:57:51 PM »

Well when you install Kazza, Winmx, napster ect. you are just inviting the world onto your pc. You decide.

Sabre · « **Reply #2 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:02:30 PM »

Stealing is stealing. Those songs are intellectual property, protected by copy right laws. Are music CD's too expensive? Yep. Don't like it? Don't buy them. If enough people stop buying them, the price will drop. One company has already lowered prices, down to $10/CD. Still too expensive, but a step in the right direction. I'm a published author, and you can bet I'd go after someone reproducing my book and either giving it away, selling it, or simply digitizing it and offering it for download. We're a nation of laws, and the law says what the 12 year old did was a crime. All other arguments to the contrary are simply ways to justify criminal behavoir.

Trell · « **Reply #3 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:24:33 PM »

I agree that it is wrong, I even agree that there should be a penlty for it.
but i dont agree with the fines or the felany charge.
i think it should be a misdomeaner.
and the fine small . and of course no jail time

Skuzzy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:27:30 PM »

Sabre hit the nail on the head. Your nor my opinion is relevant. Currently, it is illegal. Don't like the laws, then change them. But if you are for throwing all copyrights out the window, then I am against it.

Now,..from my personal perspective, I hate any programs like these, as they create numerous problems with players connections and we take the heat for it. So, I wish they would arrest the lot of the users and toss the computers into a bay.
At least we might have a chance to get the Internet back to some level of consistency.

AWMac · « **Reply #5 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:30:20 PM »

Same old drivel .......nothing new to see here, move along.

midnight Target · « **Reply #6 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:32:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Your nor my opinion is relevant.

SunKing · « **Reply #7 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:49:25 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Same old drivel .......nothing new to see here, move along.

aint that the truth.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #8 on:** September 09, 2003, 03:54:09 PM »

What are you smiling about MT?

midnight Target · « **Reply #9 on:** September 09, 2003, 04:37:37 PM »

bastage!

er I mean...

Oh never mind.

Gunthr · « **Reply #10 on:** September 09, 2003, 04:42:50 PM »

There's an Amnesty program, MT.

Its still not to late to give yourself up

aknimitz · « **Reply #11 on:** September 09, 2003, 05:27:38 PM »

Not to step up to the plate and take a swing ... but ....... who says its illegal? Whether or not it is illegal depends on what judge you happen to be standing in front of. There is no where near a consensus in this country as to how it is going to be treated.

Plain and simple copyright infringmenet? Seems reasonable and logical. However, and I know this isnt a novel argument, but some of you may be old enough to remember the hoopla surrounding the introduction of the VCR (not me, I just learned about it after the fact). No one wanted the evil VCRs to be sold or marketed because of the evil things they could do like record TV shows. Why would people want to record TV shows or movies? Well surely to give to their friends so their friends dont have to rent them!

Although technology has changed, the analysis is quite similar. I dont really know where I stand on this. I would gladly pay a reasonable monthly fee to join music company with downloads from any and all artists ... not just a few decent to lure you in filled with a bunch of crap.

Incidentally, do you all have a problem with people posting SNL clips on kazaa and sharing those?

Dunno what the answer is ... all I know is that it is not decidedly illegal.

Nim

Curval · « **Reply #12 on:** September 09, 2003, 05:29:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Sabre
Stealing is stealing. Those songs are intellectual property, protected by copy right laws. Are music CD's too expensive? Yep. Don't like it? Don't buy them. If enough people stop buying them, the price will drop. One company has already lowered prices, down to $10/CD. Still too expensive, but a step in the right direction. I'm a published author, and you can bet I'd go after someone reproducing my book and either giving it away, selling it, or simply digitizing it and offering it for download. We're a nation of laws, and the law says what the 12 year old did was a crime. All other arguments to the contrary are simply ways to justify criminal behavoir.

Agree..100%. Well put too.

Rutilant · « **Reply #13 on:** September 09, 2003, 05:30:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Sabre hit the nail on the head. Your nor my opinion is relevant. Currently, it is illegal. Don't like the laws, then change them. But if you are for throwing all copyrights out the window, then I am against it.

Now,..from my personal perspective, I hate any programs like these, as they create numerous problems with players connections and we take the heat for it. So, I wish they would arrest the lot of the users and toss the computers into a bay.
At least we might have a chance to get the Internet back to some level of consistency.

If we got arrested, you realize how many customers ya'd have? 2.

midnight Target · « **Reply #14 on:** September 09, 2003, 05:33:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Rutilant
If we got arrested, you realize how many customers ya'd have? 2.

Even worse... 1 would be Rip.