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Offline nuchpatrick

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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2003, 10:41:59 AM »
Hrmm.. looks like a good case of stick ssssttttiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrr to me..

Or one too many Beers.. I'm not sure which..  :D

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2003, 11:26:16 AM »
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But can YOU do THIS?! (Unzips pants and >
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« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2003, 02:44:28 PM »
The stupid thing is, if they had gone the easier route, and used a tables based system, they may have had a half decent FM and full DM implemented a long time ago.

And a whole lot of the AH community might have had a foot in both games.

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2003, 11:59:56 PM »
How's this film going over in WW2OL land?

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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2003, 12:53:13 AM »
Apparently its a case of miscalibrated rudders in WW2OL, and the guy who did the film obviously stomped the pedals in WW2OL and not in IL2 ;)

Good news is though apparently the structural damage model will be implemented in the next version 1.10 (yes I'm am dead serious!).

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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2003, 09:12:52 AM »
LOL! the things you can blame on hardware... er... I mean the things WWIIOL blames on hardware.  When I did the test on AH's, I used a twisty stick and the movement from full left to full right was almost instantaneous.... never saw an effect like WW2OL.

Maybe the guy just didn't have enough memory or didn't have his OS set up right?

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2003, 11:30:23 AM »
"structural damage model will be implemented in the next version"

 But wait?  I've been hearing for two years about the unequalled and bleeding edge complexity damage model that WWIIO already had in place.  Structure damage included.  But that all that damage was just not graphically modelled so you did not see anything but fire and/or a crashing plane.

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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2003, 04:18:38 PM »
Vulcan (Vulkan in WW2OL) neglects to mention that this film is from BEFORE the recent FM update.

But then again Vulcan, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story :)

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2003, 04:21:42 PM »
I downloaded AH this morning and flew the default P-51.  I could make it behave just like the first clip of that video, what does that prove?

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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2003, 04:27:51 PM »
Got a film of that Gadfly?  With the built in AH "guncam" that ought to be easy enough to do.

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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2003, 04:29:52 PM »
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Originally posted by Kadesh
Vulcan (Vulkan in WW2OL) neglects to mention that this film is from BEFORE the recent FM update.

But then again Vulcan, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story :)


Bleh..  the 'recent FM update' just screwed up the FM's...

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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2003, 04:44:36 PM »
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I downloaded AH this morning and flew the default P-51.  I could make it behave just like the first clip of that video, what does that prove?


You can make an ah plane do that if you kick the rudder back and forth while flying just above stall speed. Get it faster and you won't. No way to know how fast the plane was flying in the first clip.
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2003, 04:59:56 PM »
That is my point, Iron.  I didn't make a film-I knew I could do it in AH, just like in every flight sim.  I have nothing to prove, so no reason to argue the point.

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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2003, 05:12:15 PM »
I guess the assumption is that the film in this thread was made while flying both planes at the same speed. You know what they say about assumptions though.
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2003, 07:46:47 PM »
With the rudder alone you can get the AH P-51 to go completely out of plane and perpendicular to it's intended travel direction?