K-19 Widowmaker

[Jack55]

I recently toured the "K-19" from the movie.  It was interesting walking through a boat that was tasked to patrol off the American east coast and nuke our cities if ordered to.  Later, it was a Finnish restaurant.  Now it's the first boat of a fledgling naval museum.

http://www.juliett484.org/juliett/about/about.html

[Airscrew]

I didn't really pay to much attention to the stereo typing

Stereo Typing,  Is that when you type with both hands?

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Jack55
I recently toured the "K-19" from the movie.  It was interesting walking through a boat that was tasked to patrol off the American east coast and nuke our cities if ordered to.  Later, it was a Finnish restaurant.  Now it's the first boat of a fledgling naval museum.

http://www.juliett484.org/juliett/about/about.html

Juliett class (project 651) were diesel boats, and were not used against American coast, mostly operating in Black, Baltic and Barenz seas.

There were serious differences between interiors of nuclear and diesel subs. Nuclear subs were mush more comfortable for the crew. For example, every sailor had a personal bed, not shared with someone from other watch.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Martlet
I'll admit it's easy to confuse French subs with Russian.  Both smell horribly and are usually found well off course.

Martlet, you are a gem of this BBS!



Surely, Russian submarines are always off course, because they are always in the place where you don't expect them

BTW, did you really try to find them by the smell? Must be hard when they are submerged

[T0J0]

Originally posted by Boroda
Martlet, you are a gem of this BBS!



Surely, Russian submarines are always off course, because they are always in the place where you don't expect them

BTW, did you really try to find them by the smell? Must be hard when they are submerged

 It would be easier to follow the trail of dead irradiated sea creatures..... Its kinda of a glowing trail...

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Boroda
Martlet, you are a gem of this BBS!



Surely, Russian submarines are always off course, because they are always in the place where you don't expect them

BTW, did you really try to find them by the smell? Must be hard when they are submerged

It would be pretty hard to see them mooning while they were submerged now, wouldn't it.

[Jack55]

Originally posted by Boroda
Juliett class (project 651) were diesel boats, and were not used against American coast, mostly operating in Black, Baltic and Barenz seas.

There were serious differences between interiors of nuclear and diesel subs. Nuclear subs were mush more comfortable for the crew. For example, every sailor had a personal bed, not shared with someone from other watch.

I did not say the sub was nuclear powered.  The restaurant tables were in the battery decks according to photos of its time in Finland.  All the batterys were removed.  It's diesel engines are huge.

The Museum said that they were first deployed to attack the US east coast.  As more capable subs became available, they were tasked with duty closer to home and shadowing US carriers on occasion because under battery power it was very quite.  They also said the sub needed to be on the surface for 14 minutes to launch cruise missiles.  I think it needed to stay on the surface to guide the missiles too.  It has a big retractable RADAR dish in the sail, was much more fulnerable to counterattack than later ballistic missile armed subs.

[Nefarious]

Thanks Boroda,

My dad tells me about all the "games" we played when he was in the Navy from 1972 to 1992.

he served on 5 Carriers-

John F Kennedy
Connstellation
Kitty Hawk
Nimitz
America

He mostly served with the Attack Squadrons, (A-6's) but he also enjoyed one S-3 squadron.

He likes to tell me the story about loading Nukes onto A-6's under watch from Marine rifles. Preparing themselves for the war that never happened.

[Twist]

Games were not limited to just sub's. I was stationed in Iceland where we often played a game of chicken with Bear bombers. They would make 'attack' runs at Reykavik/Keflavik NAS and our F-15's would go up and show them the way back home.

I also had the privilege to work closely with Navy personnel stationed next door at a listening post. Sure was a lot of deep sea traffic between Iceland and the Faroe islands.

Here, read this, I found it interesting;

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/cno/n87/history/cold-war-asw.html