another new gun..

[lazs2]

kinda tochy there eh deja?   No big deal... I asked you a couple of questins and instead of answering you got huffy and claimed that despite  the info I gave you I was simply pounding my chest...

tell ya what... have the guy that does the reloading get ahold of me and you can sit back with your thumb up your a** while we talk... if you listen you just might learn something...

I don't really know how to dispell all your half truths and myths without hurting your fragile ego... I would say I am sorry but... I lack sensitivity... I'm sure you understand.
lazs

[lazs2]

Oh... and my math is not that good but how does shooting 12,000 rounds a year (500 per outing times 2 outings per month times 12 months) equal "$50 a year savings" of cast over jacketed.   even at $25 a thousand difference the jacketed slugs would cost you $300 a year more not to mention the difference in powder... small but real .... you do know that jacketed slugs require more powder to reach the same velocities (all else being equal) don't you?

So... what are them there velocities?
lazs

[Mini D]

LOL! Um... lazs... firstly.. it was $11 per thousand.

And... I thought you said that didn't matter?  You're trying to hard to be right at everything lazs.

All-lead is harder on the weapon.  It's as simple as that.  Even if you do it right.  More maintenance, more caution, cheaper.

MiniD

[lazs2]

cast slugs are about 60% the price of jacketed...  Where did you get these jacketed slugs and who makes em?

what velocities are you running with "your" reloads?

what is the compossition of the jackets on your slugs?

what is the reason that you believe that lead slugs are harder on the weapon when even the newest tyro to reloading knows the opposite is true?

how does shooting 12000 rounds of jacketed slugs a year only cost you $50 more over the cost of shooting lead slugs?

What is the more maintenance you speak of with lead slugs?  

what do you mean by more caution with lead slugs?   jacketed opreate at higher pressures and are more sensitive to crimp...

I don't think you have any idea of what you are shooting or why...  you simply follow your buddy around and he feeds you ammo... does he load and clean your guns too?   someone loading 12000 rounds a year for a "friend" every year seems.... strange somehow.

I have both cast and jacketed slugs on hand.   I load both.   You are pretty much wasting your money shooting jacketed slugs at tin cans and paper targets and vermin.     Large tough animals probly go down easier with very heavy  (300-330 grain in 44) slugs.  Lightly constructed jacketed soft or hollow points don't work well on say hogs or bears.   FMJ work fine but even then... they are going to harder lead alloy in the core.


soo... for what people use handguns for 90% or so of the time... jacketed slugs are a waste of money..

Cast slugs have the ability to be more accurate.. they are easier to reload for most people (more caution in the bullet feeding, less caution in the charge and crimp/overall length).   cast slugs are MUCH easier on the firearm.   Cast slugs can lead the bore and chambers if done poorly or with a rough bore.   I generally shoot a thousand rounds of jacketed slugs through a new gun first to wear it in.  I have put 50,000 rounds of cast slugs thru a ruger super blackhawk in 44mag and the bore miked out perfect.

for you... I don't know what you shoot "500 rounds a session" at but since you don't seem to care what you are shooting out the end of your barrel I would suggest that you buy Wolf ammo by the  thousand.... It will be consistent and meet your jacketed slug needs.. It is cleaner than most reloads too.  
laz