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Offline popeye

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« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2003, 04:01:38 PM »
So, a Bradley Fellow of the Heritage Foundation thinks taxes should be low?

What a fuzzy bunny.  :)
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Re: Re: Re: Im an Independent
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2003, 04:14:18 PM »
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That's what I was thinking, but he seemed dead serious.


where is this mentality coming from? It is just insane. Wealth is created and belongs to its creator. Only a thief can think that he is owed a piece of someone else's property.
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« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2003, 06:58:14 PM »
I have no problem with business and rich folks getting tax breaks. More money is spent (2/3's of our economy is consumer spending) and creation of more jobs (Business expansion)  However, the Dems consider anything over $45,000K income as "Rich". LOL!

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« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2003, 07:01:30 PM »
I think a fat tax is bipartisan. I'd be all for it.


So would that be by the pound or Oz. ?

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« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2003, 08:37:34 PM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Silat is a communist and when I'm done with school and start earning some real money it's gonna be a cold day in hell if I let a communist POS like that interfere in my life again by stealing all my money...

Silat shut the hell up right now, start packing and move to cuba - you will simply love it there. Dont even bother rersponding, just move there now.

And no it's not worth it trying to argue sensibly with you - you will not change your sick view until the last breath you draw unless you see the error in yiour thinking yourself....

As of now you are an idiot.  

BTW feel free to send me 90% of your money - I'm a poor college student and tuition is expensive...


Nice attitude Grun. Ive served (Drafted 69)and made my $$$. You on the other hand apparantly have very little real world experience.
I dont want the upper tax rate higher but I do expect the rich to do their bit. And by the way Im in the upper bracket and pay my share. I also give away more than my share which I think is the moral and responsible way to be, since I benefit so much from what this country has to offer.
You on the other hand resort to immatuer name calling. Which brings up the issue of schools. They obviously dont teach you children very well anymore.
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Bite this
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2003, 08:44:31 PM »
And yes it was a troll .
Not the 20% of X part but the part about your money isnt yours.:}The paragraph after that is pure carp bait.

 And I do believe the upper 1% who control 90% of the money have a bigger responsibility in our society.
Even so Gruns name calling was uncalled for . I am not a communist. I am a pervert :}            :lol
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« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2003, 08:47:21 PM »
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 I also give away more than my share which I think is the moral and responsible way to be, .



And that's the way it suppose to be. It is your money and you can dispose of it any way you wish.

It is not the government's job to distribute your or my money. That's theft.

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« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2003, 11:58:36 PM »
Ditto

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Re: Bite this
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2003, 12:01:55 AM »
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Originally posted by Silat
The paragraph after that is pure carp bait.

 And I do believe the upper 1% who control 90% of the money have a bigger responsibility in our society.
Even so Gruns name calling was uncalled for . I am not a communist. I am a pervert :}            :lol


I agree with everything you said:D

Assuming that their responsibility is their own choosing, not mandated.

http://www.fairtax.org/

Still would like to hear some opinions on this.

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« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2003, 07:38:46 AM »
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Originally posted by Silat
I dont want the upper tax rate higher but I do expect the rich to do their bit.I also give away more than my share which I think is the moral and responsible way to be, since I benefit so much from what this country has to offer.
You on the other hand resort to immatuer name calling. Which brings up the issue of schools. They obviously dont teach you children very well anymore.


Silat-

Did you bother to read some of the posts in this thread?

"The top 1%, who earn 20.81% of all income covered under the income tax, are paying 37.42% of the federal tax bite. "

That's what I call the upper earners paying their fair share. Would you like them to cover the entire tax burden? I mean, there SHOULD be a penalty for working your arnold off and being successful. Really, why should Warren Buffett have more money than me? Everyone should have the same, right?

I'm happy that you give money away, but you have no right to push your ideals or sense of charity on me or anyone else. Do what you like with your money, but keep your hand out of my pocket. I donate money and time, but I'll be damned if some liberal beauracrat is going to dictate to me how much I should give.

Finally, on the subject of name calling, which is reprehensible when anyone does it....did you just call Grun a child in the same breath as complaining about his name calling? Way to take the high ground.

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« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2003, 01:00:50 PM »
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Silat-

Did you bother to read some of the posts in this thread?

"The top 1%, who earn 20.81% of all income covered under the income tax, are paying 37.42% of the federal tax bite. "

That's what I call the upper earners paying their fair share. Would you like them to cover the entire tax burden? I mean, there SHOULD be a penalty for working your arnold off and being successful. Really, why should Warren Buffett have more money than me? Everyone should have the same, right?

I'm happy that you give money away, but you have no right to push your ideals or sense of charity on me or anyone else. Do what you like with your money, but keep your hand out of my pocket. I donate money and time, but I'll be damned if some liberal beauracrat is going to dictate to me how much I should give.

Finally, on the subject of name calling, which is reprehensible when anyone does it....did you just call Grun a child in the same breath as complaining about his name calling? Way to take the high ground.


Yes I read them.. I have never said that the upper earners (me) should cover the entire tax burden.. I never said my hand should be in your pocket. And I dont ever remember "child" being name calling.
And you need to read the post again. The sentence I used was "They obviously dont teach you children very well anymore."
I assumed by Gruns statements that he is still in the child catagory? Meaning anyone under 30 considering my age.:}
I stand be my statement that calling me a communist, and an idiot is name calling .  


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« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2003, 01:04:04 PM »
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Nice attitude Grun. Ive served (Drafted 69)and made my $$$. You on the other hand apparantly have very little real world experience.
They obviously dont teach you children very well anymore.


I agree that calling you an idiot is name calling, but I hardly consider anyone under 30 a "child".

Calling you a communist would be insulting as well.

Calling you a bleeding heart liberal hippie tree hugger..well, that would just be accurate. ;)  J/K
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« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2003, 01:04:15 PM »
Yes I called you those things... What incentive would I have to work hard if up to 90% of my money was stolen as yiu want it to be?

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« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2003, 01:15:43 PM »
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Yes I called you those things... What incentive would I have to work hard if up to 90% of my money was stolen as yiu want it to be?


Jail if you didn't...:D

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Grun . Peace friend
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2003, 01:23:54 PM »
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Yes I called you those things... What incentive would I have to work hard if up to 90% of my money was stolen as yiu want it to be?


It was a TROLL .. OK? Get it?? :}
You dont know me. Calling me those things is just immature. If you arent going to apologize then that is your right. This is America after all.:}

 I dont want anyone taxed at 90%.The troll never said that although you have brought it up more than once.. Just stay in school as long as you can .  Being a professional student is the way to go.:}
When you have worked 35 years,and had employees  as I have then we will discuss paying taxes and the system. You would be surprised how your opinions will change.
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"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason."