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Offline Toad

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« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2003, 01:27:03 PM »
Does this mean Silat ISN'T going to send me all his money?

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« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2003, 01:27:14 PM »
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Calling you a communist would be insulting as well.



Why? I suspected that Silat was trolling and he confirmed that, but if you take his original post verbatim, it is a statement of devout communist.

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« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2003, 01:27:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Silat
It was a TROLL .. OK? Get it?? :}
You dont know me. Calling me those things is just immature. If you arent going to apologize then that is your right. This is America after all.:}

 I dont want anyone taxed at 90%.The troll never said that although you have brought it up more than once.. Just stay in school as long as you can .  Being a professional student is the way to go.:}
When you have worked 35 years,and had employees  as I have then we will discuss paying taxes and the system. You would be surprised how your opinions will change.


I met Grun, his head is straight on his shoulders.  God forbid his opinions never change to yours or we might as well just fly a flag with a Hammar and Sickle.

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Comrade Silat said:"Americans have been convinced (by Republicans) that the money they pay in taxes belongs to them rather than to society, and that they have a right to keep as much as they can tear away from the 'thuggish' IRS. This is unfortunate, and will have to be reversed eventually. We need a restoration of fiscal responsibility, and a recognition of the essential fact that those who benefit most from society have the largest obligation to give back. Until we return to this (once common) understanding, Republicans will continue to erode the fabric of our society by offering the rich a free ride and encouraging the politics of greed."


Unbelieveable....
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« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2003, 01:30:06 PM »
If it was a troll then so be it - it certainly is your right to now say that it was a troll.  However, I wont apologize because I responed correctly to that stement.

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Re: Re: Grun . Peace friend
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2003, 01:32:05 PM »
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I met Grun, his head is straight on his shoulders.  God forbid his opinions never change to yours or we might as well just fly a flag with a Hammar and Sickle.



Rip what dont you get? Im a capitalist . Ill say it again: I dont want anyone taxed to much.......... Or at all if that were possible.....:}
What opinions of mine  in this thread (the troll doesnt count)are "communist,socialist ?
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« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2003, 01:40:15 PM »
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Rip what dont you get? Im a capitalist . Ill say it again: I dont want anyone taxed to much.......... Or at all if that were possible.....:}
What opinions of mine  in this thread (the troll doesnt count)are "communist,socialist ?



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.."those who benefit most from society have the largest obligation to give back"...


Don't you realize that they give back to society in the form of consumer spending (2/3's of our economy) and businesses (hiring of personel) ??

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« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2003, 01:43:20 PM »
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Don't you realize that they give back to society in the form of consumer spending (2/3's of our economy) and businesses (hiring of personel) ??


Of course I do. When did I say otherwise? What is it you think I disagree with? Other than Gruns name calling?
You do realize that we ALL make this economy work? Not just the rich? :}
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"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
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« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2003, 01:47:23 PM »
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Of course I do. When did I say otherwise? What is it you think I disagree with? Other than Gruns name calling?
You do realize that we ALL make this economy work? Not just the rich? :}


the rich contribute more, give em a break! If anything, tax the little guys more as inspiration to do better, make something of themselves. :D (j/k about the latter)  Besides, the Democrats consider anyone that makes more the $45K a year as "rich". :rolleyes:

Your posts sound like you pissed away your life making little money and now you're pissed about it and envious of anyone that earned their mansions. (shrugs)

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« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2003, 02:09:17 PM »
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the rich contribute more, give em a break! If anything, tax the little guys more as inspiration to do better, make something of themselves. :D (j/k about the latter)  Besides, the Democrats consider anyone that makes more the $45K a year as "rich". :rolleyes:

Your posts sound like you pissed away your life making little money and now you're pissed about it and envious of anyone that earned their mansions. (shrugs)


Not that its any of your business but Ive been retired for almost 10 years and 53.Raised 2 daughters (29 and 22) by myself . They are fine capitalists... I started wrkin at 13. First in a meat packing plant then I strted my own scrap metal business while in high school . Put myself thru college and served in the army. My  scrap metal business did very well thankyou .:} I worked hard and was lucky. Treated my employees well. Im not angry about it:} You havent read my posts. I stated somewhere back there that Ive done very well indeed.In the top tax bracket . Being in that bracket is my reward for working hard. :} I have very little reason to be envious of anyone other than those that are taller and have hair:}
I said it before. I dont want anyone taxed more than another......How many times do I have to say it ? And please point out where ive been pissed about my success in life?
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« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2003, 02:29:30 PM »
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I've done very well indeed.In the top tax bracket .  


Now I REALLY want you to send me all your... er... MY money!

You do have PayPal, don't you?

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2003, 02:37:19 PM »
Hey get in line Toad you rich white old man, I'm much more needy than you - I'm a poor college student dammit. :lol

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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2003, 02:44:18 PM »
Im with Grun on this one, havent read any of the above posts but its always smart to agree with him.

Now...whats this thread about?....in 3 lines please or pics, just the facts and what im agreeing to.

Thank you.

And yes, im bored

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« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2003, 02:58:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
Im with Grun on this one, havent read any of the above posts but its always smart to agree with him.

Now...whats this thread about?....in 3 lines please or pics, just the facts and what im agreeing to.

Thank you.

And yes, im bored


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« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2003, 06:03:28 PM »
Just wanted to throw my 2Cents in here.  I may not like Pres. Bush absolutley but this summer I received a nice check of $800.  With 2 kids and my income my tax returns are usually $2000-4000.  

Whats that mean?   I DONT PAY TAXES!

I make under 37 a year and have two children and with my nice check I purchased a New washing Machine and baught the kids some clothes and toys.

I figure I'm about average joe so others followed my lead.

I'm not rich and I got a tax cut!

just a thaught:)

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« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2003, 06:53:52 PM »
I would like to point out, for anyone who hasn't noticed, almost every economic indicator has been rising rapidly during the last quarter.  

If this keeps up, there will be one less campaigne issue for the Democrats to focus on during the election of 2004.

Regards, Shuckins