Author Topic: Canada may keep him if they'd like... (Read 2569 times)

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #60 on:** September 22, 2003, 07:26:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
I agree with funked, the concept of having a opinion and being outspoken about it is anti-American!

No Thrawn, what was anti-American was calling Americans "lunatics" and "armed and dangerous", which is what the whole thread is about in case you didn't notice.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #61 on:** September 22, 2003, 07:28:13 PM »

Nice driveby attempt though.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #62 on:** September 22, 2003, 07:30:50 PM »

nicely said, ripper god bless your country some americans have much longer memories than the rabble who spoke before.

pissant conservatives. man can say what he wants stop whineing.

muckmaw · « **Reply #63 on:** September 22, 2003, 07:42:50 PM »

He can say whatever he likes. And what he says directly influence my spending habits...

Hmmm..Apocolypse now Redux for 2 friends this Christmas...NOPE..off the list.

Lemme see here..Oh the West Wing is on...Oh well, D-Wings is better.

He can say what he wants, and I can spend how I want. I hope the canucks will support his arnold, but the lunatics like me are sick of him.

shreck YOU, MARTY!

john9001 · « **Reply #64 on:** September 22, 2003, 07:59:09 PM »

wow, lotsa hosers here , eh?...time for some beers , eh?

Thrawn · « **Reply #65 on:** September 22, 2003, 08:27:29 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Nice driveby attempt though.

vvvvrrrrooNAZI!!!ooOMMMM!

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #66 on:** September 22, 2003, 08:37:58 PM »

Shouldn't an envirolooney like you be pedaling a bike?

Toad · « **Reply #67 on:** September 22, 2003, 08:47:51 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon

you mean tosses him on the pile of people who dont agree with your every opinion...land of the free my arse...what happened to freedom to express your opinion without fear...

and later

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Originally posted by vorticon

con·demn

con·demn (k?n-dem?) verb, transitive
con·demned, con·demn·ing, con·demns

1.   To express strong disapproval of
2.   To pronounce judgment against; sentence.
3.   To judge or declare to be unfit for use or consumption, usually by official order: condemn an old building.
4.   Law. To appropriate (property) for public use.

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from Lernout & Hauspie Speech Products N.V., further reproduction and distribution restricted in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.

you can disagree with him and express it but you can't put a figurative bullet through his head for it...

Cod, I always LOVE the interpretation folks that live outside the US give to "Free Speech".

Cripes, I bet if you were near TJ's or John Adams' or Ben Franklin's graves you could hear muffled guffaws.

Well, at least Vort would probably "give" us the "freedom" to AGREE with everyone, no matter what idiocies they prounounce.

One more time, for game, set and match.....

Freedom speech is focused on anyone's right to disagree.

Think about it for just a tiny second... did the founder's really think you needed to Constitutionally ensure the right to AGREE with another individual or the "government"?

SOB · « **Reply #68 on:** September 22, 2003, 10:02:10 PM »

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Originally posted by vorticon
great the way that the 1 person who was "against" it was the one who was arguing FOR it...

previous posts deleted

That you would delete all of your posts says a lot about their content. What a tool.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #69 on:** September 22, 2003, 10:09:26 PM »

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Originally posted by loser
Maybe because they arent all in jail learning how to be better drug users and criminals?

Really GRUN, i'm sorry that you didnt have the best of experiences while in Vancouver (arguably the butthole of the entire country and certainly of the western part of the country,) but there are alot of nice places in Canada as there is in the US.

To label a nation based on the underbelly of its society is not really fair. Im sure even you can agree with that.

As for some self-serving pompous tard from hollywood praising Canada (and dumping on the US) because of his freedom to be an idiot, no one here cares. Except for a small group of banner carrying, sign holding, welfare cheque collecting, self proclaimed activists, nobody here would give Mr. Sheen the time of day.

And my excuse for Vancouver? Same excuse, or rather explanation for the problems with having too many rats in one cage.

btw, What I have said about Vancouver means no disrespect to any AH player who lives in Vancouver.

Nice post!

I agree with what you said, I just think it was fortunate that I did end up in Vancouver so at least I could experience that Canada isnt some wonderland like some of the more exhuberant left wingers, in the USA or Canada, claim it is compared to the USA. I certainly had positive experiences too.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #70 on:** September 22, 2003, 10:16:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripper29
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Plenty of drugs in the USA...

But then the real question is why so many extreme drug users in the socialist caring humane happy happy wonderland that Canada is supposed to be

Not sure, it's actually a valid question. As you have pointed out numerous times that the Government of Canada is very Liberal in its beliefs and policies, it is a wonder that there are so many problems in some of our major cities. Just the other day the city of Vancouver opened the first ever "safe" injection site in Canada for users of" with the idea of decriminalizing possession of small amounts of illegal drugs, I guess they are trying to stop the spread of HIV and Hep C. Our Government is also "toying marijuana, instead of a Criminal record a fine is issued.

I don't always agree with the actions and policies of our Federal Government, unfortunately it is decided in Eastern Canada who will lead our country each election. This is due to the fact that the majority of our population lives in Ontario and Quebec. But, having served on a Peacekeeping mission in the Balkans (2002) I can tell you that Canada is a pretty nice place to live, we may have disagreements with our fellow Canadians from time to time, we may not always agree with our neighbors to the south over many issues but in the end we are ready to come to their defense and support them. Our current Government did not get on board with the USA and Great Briton in regards to Iraq, a situation in which many Western Canadians are deeply ashamed of, but it was a decision that the Federal Government made and we are stuck with it.

Our military is woefully under funded and under staffed, however they did serve along side our NATO allies in Korea, Somalia, the Balkans, Afghanistan (where a sniper from one of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry made a record break shot while serving with American Special Forces) and many other missions. When 9/11 happened we mourned the losses of the citizens of the USA and opened our airports and homes to travelers that were refused " in comparison to some of the things the USA has been involventry into American Airspace. These are little things in the big scheme of things, I am sure you will call "punyed in, but there is a long history of mutual support between our two countries. We have never claimed to be a world power, but we try to do our part in Peace Keeping endeavors. When I was in the Balkans I served with many outstanding Americans, Brits, Germans and so on, politics was not an issue as we were there for the same reason, we all wanted to make a difference in the lives of people affected by a devastating internal conflict. Did we make a difference? Maybe, maybe not a big difference but in a small way we were able to improve the lives of a some.

Grunherz, I do not know you and I don't know your history and background. I don't know what your perception is of Canada, other then an obvious dislike, or what caused this but to make a blanket statement like "Canada ******* Sucks" would be like me assuming that you are typical of all Americans. I have great respect for the USA and its citizens and appreciate the sacrifices they have made in the war against terrorism.

No country is perfect and we are always looking to make life better for ourselves and those around us. Your willing to let us keep Sheen, okay we can do that, but you have to keep Celine Dion

Oh the blanket negative stement was meant to mirror sheen's statement about the USA. Thats why asked if anyone wanted to buy a CD from me saying that - by vorticon's reasoning you should all have been ordering them regardless of the fact I bashed your home.

One of the things I did learn about Canada during my stay is that there is some voice of dissent towards Canada's left wing cowardly defense policies by recent government's including criticism of the embarassingly low military funding and general weakness abroad as well as hiding behind the UN. Also there seem to be people who are against Canada's shift away from the USA.

RTR · « **Reply #71 on:** September 23, 2003, 01:05:51 AM »

Yep GRUNHERZ, I can gaurantee that "there is some voice of dissent against Canada's left wing cowardly defence policies" .
I am retired Canadian Airforce and can "guarandamntee", that the position of the average Canadian is in support of the military.
What they are not in support of is the $$ it takes to run it.
This is an unfortunate (to say the least) way to think.
My Brothers in arms have less to work with than I did, and I had basically nothing.
I agree with the US foreign policies in general, and wish that Canada was able to provide more support.
However, I would ask you to recognize the contributions we do make.
We were there during the Gulf war.
My nephew is now in Afghanistan.
My Sqn was a participant in Quatar (Gulf War)
My Grandfather had 2 ships sunk underneath him. (WW1 and WWII)
Between my Brother, Father and Myself we have 60 years of Military service.
Enough Military history.

I am sorry that you saw the "seedier" side of one of our cities.
Vancouver is indeed a melting pot.
But..Much like the US,(and I have spent a great deal of time there)
Canada is not untouched by crime.
Do I think that we are "better" than the United States?
NO, and I applaud your patriotism.
Allow we Canadians the same.
I have always thought that I could count on any US citizen as my brother (we are so similar it's scary).

In Short GRUNHERZ..no offence meant, and give your experience a bit of a think. (We ain't all bad.....and we got cute sheep!)

Cheers GRUNHERZ, you have a standing invite to visit Edmonton, Alberta any time you wish (just bring scotch).
RTR

Thrawn · « **Reply #72 on:** September 23, 2003, 02:32:25 AM »

RTR, can't help but notice your "Red Indian" avatar.

My dad served with the 441 and the 429 overseas from '79 to '84. Were you in the military back then?

lazs2 · « **Reply #73 on:** September 23, 2003, 07:20:32 AM »

big cities and governments are the problem. Canada has less big cities so less problem... Canada has more government so more problem. I would rather just live in smaller cities in the U.S. If nothing else.... it's warmer.
lazs

Ripsnort · « **Reply #74 on:** September 23, 2003, 07:23:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
RTR, can't help but notice your "Red Indian" avatar.

My dad served with the 441 and the 429 overseas from '79 to '84. Were you in the military back then?

Now Thrawn, if you were a true "American liberal" like you play on the BBS, you'd find that Indian Head icon offensive and in disgrace of North American Indian tribes....