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Offline Krusher

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« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2003, 07:38:13 AM »
How would you like to live in Windsor and drive across the bridge to the US. The very first city you would see is DETROIT !!!

Sorta like leaving beaver cleaver land and ending up in hell :)

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« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2003, 09:16:10 AM »
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How would you like to live in Windsor and drive across the bridge to the US. The very first city you would see is DETROIT !!!

Sorta like leaving beaver cleaver land and ending up in hell :)


So true but shhhh.... don't tell anyone. ;)

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« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2003, 10:08:03 AM »
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How would you like to live in Windsor and drive across the bridge to the US. The very first city you would see is DETROIT !!!

Sorta like leaving beaver cleaver land and ending up in hell :)


LOL, like night and day.  Fine example.  

I won't make excuses for Vancouver but there are some nice locals in that city.  Likewise there are some gorgeous locations in the US.  Grun I do encourage  you to come to visit a little more of the country before hating it.  You can't judge a book by it's cover.

As for Mr. Sheen, I think he was simply generalizing the situation in the US and the way of life.  Canada is not like the US in many ways and foreign policy is hugely different.  Just because the US does not abide UN does not mean for a second Canada is hiding behind it.  The US has a shoot first ask questions later policy and the US is living in fear right now.  You have a greater chance of being shot and killed in Texas than being killed in a car accident.  I'm sure Sheen was glad to be home but rather opened his mouth in front of the media just a little too wide!

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« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2003, 10:33:03 AM »
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You have a greater chance of being shot and killed in Texas than being killed in a car accident.  I'm sure Sheen was glad to be home but rather opened his mouth in front of the media just a little too wide!


He isn't the only one with his foot in his mouth. Where'd you get the numbers you referenced for Texas? This report is a few years old but I'm betting the numbers haven't changed as dramatically as you've stated.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/StateProfiles/sip_tx.pdf
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« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2003, 10:55:08 AM »
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.  The US has a shoot first ask questions later policy and the US is living in fear right now.  


I sure wish this message would get out to more people in the world, then maybe they wouldn't be trying to enter our country in droves.

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« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2003, 02:25:28 PM »
They have a higher death rate by shooting in Texas than by automobile?  I seriously doubt that.

I guess if you were shot at as many times as martin sheen has been then you would have the right to feel frightened.   How many times was that again?  I mean he's what?  70 or 80 and has been shot at how many times?
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« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2003, 02:27:02 PM »
yes Thrawn...I was in from 1980 till 1995.
Served with 421 tactical fighter sqn in Germany and 410 sqn in cold lake.
Would go back to either in a heartbeat.
And yep, my avatar is a rendition of 421 sqn nose art from WWII.
(also the nose art for my squadron here).
What is your Dads name, maybe I know him?
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« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2003, 05:32:01 PM »
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He isn't the only one with his foot in his mouth. Where'd you get the numbers you referenced for Texas? This report is a few years old but I'm betting the numbers haven't changed as dramatically as you've stated.


Sorry data I was referring to was older, I've never bothered to update my trivial knowledge on the subject.  It’s just mind-boggling that at any time in recent history this could be possible.  So, I'll rephrase what I've stated before.  Texas has always had a reputation for a lot of guns per capita and has had a history of more deaths to gunshots than in car accidents.

http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00016346.htm

Other sources are listed on the site.  Glad to see the state has cleaned up AK.  Or has the driving just gotten worse?

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« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2003, 08:12:56 PM »
Well, nearly half of the firearm related deaths were and are suicides. Are you really gonna count those? If they hadn't had guns they probably would found another way to commit suicide with little difficulty.

I believe the homicide rate has diminsihed in Texas as a result of making the concealed weapon permit readily available to citizens without a criminal record.
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« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2003, 10:02:33 PM »
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He was corporal, David A Walls.  I'm not sure if he made master corporal overseas.  He joined up back in '65 I think, last year Canada was still flying Lancasters anyway.  He got out in '88 I believe, he received his orders to report to officer training school, but decide to retire and stay in Ottawa instead.  We lived in "Bridge" Q's in Weitenung.
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« Reply #85 on: September 24, 2003, 08:17:52 AM »
so... what is the gun related homicide rate in Texas?   I can't imagine it being even a quarter of the auto death rate.     I like guns and hot rods and Texas has a lot of both.  

been to vancouuver a lot.  my brother lives there.  it is a **** hole.   a very wet and cold **** hole to boot.  Now that it is becoming more "diverse"... it is a dangerous, wet, cold ****hole.  Drugs and unemployment and people who don't all speak the same language  all in a large city make for a ****hole.
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« Reply #86 on: September 24, 2003, 08:20:48 AM »
lazs, we both posted links to numbers detailing the rates from about 1970 to 1998. You too lazy to click? :p
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« Reply #87 on: September 24, 2003, 08:40:00 AM »
What the heck, here are some numbers:

Texas  '96-'98

MV related fatalities: 11,232
Firearm suicide: 4,175
Firearm homicide and legal intervention: 2,998
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« Reply #88 on: September 24, 2003, 08:46:06 AM »
So it looks like there are 4 times as many automobile deaths as there are firearms homicides?  
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« Reply #89 on: September 24, 2003, 08:48:03 AM »
and... so a guy robs a store say... and, during the commission, he shoots a citizen and someone shoots him.   both die...  is that recorded as one homicide or two?
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