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Offline gofaster

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« on: September 23, 2003, 12:36:45 PM »
Ever see the show "Wild On..." which features the hottest party spots in some of hottest party towns in the world?  Its a pretty good show to watch while climbing out on the Friday night Squad Ops events.  I turn down the tv volume and don't miss a thing - I listen to the AH radio transmissions while watching lots of good lookin' women in skimpy clothing bouncing and flaunting on the beach and in the clubs.

And to think some of those girls will be brain-dead too young in life...



======From Yahoo Health News=======

UN Sounds Alarm Over 'Brain-Killing' Drugs
1 hour, 52 minutes ago  
 

By James Crawford

ROME (Reuters) - Party drugs like Ecstasy and amphetamines have overtaken heroin and cocaine as the fastest-growing global narcotics menace, the United Nations said on Tuesday.

   

In a report unveiled in Italy, the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime estimated more than 40 million people around the world had taken synthetic drugs in the last year, more than the combined number of cocaine and heroin users.


"These are terrifying narcotics because they are subtle -- they kill the brain rather than the heart," said Antonio Maria Costa, executive director of the Vienna-based body.


"I call these drugs the 'public enemy number one'...Youngsters just don't know the risks they run," he told Reuters in an interview.


Ecstasy abuse spiraled by 70 percent and amphetamines, such as speed, by 40 percent between 1995 and 2001. By contrast, cocaine and heroin abuse worldwide grew less than 1 percent each.


The Netherlands is the largest Ecstasy producer, accounting for 23 percent of laboratory seizures in 2000-2001,
the report said. Abuse is highest in East and Southeast Asia, in countries such as Thailand, followed by Europe and Australia.


Costa said organized crime groups had flooded into the synthetic drugs industry, which is worth around $65 billion a year with profit margins upwards of 3,000 percent.


"Why buy cocaine from Colombia or heroin from Afghanistan and transport it via sea and air and across borders when you can just make synthetic drugs across the street?" he said.



DANGER BY STEALTH


The report showed that seizures of amphetamine-type stimulants had risen to 40 tons in 2000-2001 from four tons in 1990-1991. Costa said these were an accurate indicator of growing consumption, and blamed the rise on huge misconceptions about the risks of synthetic drugs.


Since the global anti-AIDS push of the 1990s, drug users have seen heroin as a dirty, dangerous narcotic and turned to "cleaner," synthetic options they think are safer, Costa said.


"The problem is that few people die from using synthetic drugs. There are no scary headlines of people dying of overdoses. Instead, there is a slow mental deterioration -- danger by stealth."


Amphetamines cause dependence and psychosis, while Ecstasy may speed up the aging process and the onset of Alzheimer-type symptoms, the organization said.


Costa said synthetic drugs were seen as an almost acceptable feature of a party culture.


"The setting isn't in the dark alleys and needles of heroin use, it's in the disco," he said.

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2003, 01:15:24 PM »
Back in the late 80's early 90's extacy was my thing.  That and lsd.  I did a LOT of both of them, usually in combination with each other.  The last time I did extacy was in 92.  We had a grand time.  I ate 5.25 tabs over about a 8 hour period that night.  That was about 1 tab more than I would normaly do.

  The night of the trip was funny (we thought)  All of us had the same thing happen over and over and over all night long.   Somebody would be saying something and all of a sudden before the next word could get out of the mouth they'd forget what they were talking about.  We'd laugh and after about 10 seconds somebody would ask "why are we laughing" and we'd all laugh more because we couldn't remember why we were laughing.  This happened to everybody all night long. Well the next day I felt like total crap.  This is normal after doing X, but this was different than normal.  I still couldn't remember what I was talking about, only now it wasn't funny. That lasted for almost 2 weeks. And even after that I could tell the loss of brain power that had occurred, for years. Though it didn't keep me from a 4.0 in college :D  


 It's safe to say that I never felt like I did the day after that trip and the next 2 weeks.  I just felt "off" mentally.  That was until I had that xanax siezure last year.  When I woke up from the siezure and throughout the 2 week of multiple withdrawls from xanax I realized that I felt just like I had after that X trip.  Well there was a patient at rehab who was there for alcohol addiction.  He just happened to be a tenurred professor at A and M here in Texas.  Ironicly his field of study was drug addiction.  He got to give large amounts of any and all drugs to his lab rats.  So I asked him about the xanax and the X.   I was astonished at what he told me.

 Basicly I changed the physical make-up and chemical composition of my brain.  I closed receptors on neurons and stuff like that (that's what lead to my siezure)  The big difference was that the xanax acted much faster than the X, as in 2 months as apposed to 2 years to do the same changes in the brain.  I believe they affected different receptors too.  

 I guess what I'm getting at is that these guys are right.  X is a very dangerous stealth mind ****er.  There are more dagerous and more addictive substances out there (I had no problem stopping X usage) but X is will get you in the end and turn your brain into mush, almost litteraly

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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2003, 01:17:53 PM »
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"The problem is that few people die from using synthetic drugs. There are no scary headlines of people dying of overdoses. Instead, there is a slow mental deterioration -- danger by stealth."


They'll always have a home...a vote...in the democratic party.

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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2003, 01:23:44 PM »
>Back in the late 80's early 90's

OMG, thats like 10 years. Hope your doing better Udie.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2003, 01:26:41 PM by MrCoffee »

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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2003, 01:30:06 PM »
oh I forgot to add that it's been over 10 years since I did any psychadelics....


 and I'm doing pretty kick arse right now MrCofee, thanks for asking :)  Clean and mostly sober ;)

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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2003, 01:46:49 PM »
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Were you ever tempted to cut your noodle and tongue off in the garden when "tripping"?




 no but I did use them on several of my 'trips' :D

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2003, 01:48:20 PM »
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no but I did use them on several of my 'trips' :D


Let me guess, for planting Tulips...:lol :rofl

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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2003, 01:52:01 PM »
LOL! :lol :rofl


that poor kid though :(

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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2003, 01:52:05 PM »
It will fry your brain, at least if you use it like Udie. I took at look at the subject after I was once tempted to try it and decided no. The problem with ecstacy is that it will lower the serotonin level in your brain and if you use it too often it will be depleted.  It's not extremely harmless if used in reasonable amounts maybe once in 6 weeks, but the question is can you do it. Another thing is that you never know what your pill contains.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2003, 01:55:59 PM by mora »

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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2003, 02:01:15 PM »
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It will fry your brain, at least if you use it like Udie. I took at look at the subject after I was once tempted to try it and decided no. The problem with ecstacy is that it will lower the serotonin level in your brain and if you use it too often it will be depleted.  It's not extremely harmless if used in reasonable amounts maybe once in 6 weeks, but the question is can you do it. Another thing is that you never know what your pill contains.




yup.


 I did large ammounts of it every weekend for almost 2 years solid.  Talk about a walking bag of depression/neurosis.  Taking it once or twice a year I think would not be so bad.  The thing is though, that stuff feels so good that you kind of want it more than that.  That's the way it was for me, until I saw that it was hurting me (I was probably the last person to see that too :rolleyes: )  It wasn't physicaly addictive like coke, heroine or xanax (supposedly the most addictive drug on the planet - and I agree)

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2003, 02:04:51 PM »
shouldn't this tie into the "Legalize Drugs" thread?

:rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2003, 02:10:59 PM »
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shouldn't this tie into the "Legalize Drugs" thread?

:rolleyes:


It definately ties to it. The question is, is it better to lock these people up or use effective harm reduction  to minimize it's harmful effects to society?

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2003, 02:14:47 PM »
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It definately ties to it. The question is, is it better to lock these people up or use effective harm reduction  to minimize it's harmful effects to society?


LOL

so legalize and sell over the counter substances which kill your brain and are extremely addictive - are they legal over there all ready??

or this a "natural" vs "man-made" drug argument? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2003, 02:16:34 PM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
shouldn't this tie into the "Legalize Drugs" thread?

:rolleyes:


Right on.

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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2003, 02:18:40 PM »
Didn't you suffer from sever depression awhile back.....to the point of contemplating suicide?  Thats another effect of your illicit drug use.



 
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Originally posted by Udie
Back in the late 80's early 90's extacy was my thing.  That and lsd.  I did a LOT of both of them, usually in combination with each other.  The last time I did extacy was in 92.  We had a grand time.  I ate 5.25 tabs over about a 8 hour period that night.  That was about 1 tab more than I would normaly do.

  The night of the trip was funny (we thought)  All of us had the same thing happen over and over and over all night long.   Somebody would be saying something and all of a sudden before the next word could get out of the mouth they'd forget what they were talking about.  We'd laugh and after about 10 seconds somebody would ask "why are we laughing" and we'd all laugh more because we couldn't remember why we were laughing.  This happened to everybody all night long. Well the next day I felt like total crap.  This is normal after doing X, but this was different than normal.  I still couldn't remember what I was talking about, only now it wasn't funny. That lasted for almost 2 weeks. And even after that I could tell the loss of brain power that had occurred, for years. Though it didn't keep me from a 4.0 in college :D  


 It's safe to say that I never felt like I did the day after that trip and the next 2 weeks.  I just felt "off" mentally.  That was until I had that xanax siezure last year.  When I woke up from the siezure and throughout the 2 week of multiple withdrawls from xanax I realized that I felt just like I had after that X trip.  Well there was a patient at rehab who was there for alcohol addiction.  He just happened to be a tenurred professor at A and M here in Texas.  Ironicly his field of study was drug addiction.  He got to give large amounts of any and all drugs to his lab rats.  So I asked him about the xanax and the X.   I was astonished at what he told me.

 Basicly I changed the physical make-up and chemical composition of my brain.  I closed receptors on neurons and stuff like that (that's what lead to my siezure)  The big difference was that the xanax acted much faster than the X, as in 2 months as apposed to 2 years to do the same changes in the brain.  I believe they affected different receptors too.  

 I guess what I'm getting at is that these guys are right.  X is a very dangerous stealth mind ****er.  There are more dagerous and more addictive substances out there (I had no problem stopping X usage) but X is will get you in the end and turn your brain into mush, almost litteraly