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Offline crabofix

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« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2003, 09:41:23 AM »
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A legal WMD, is manufactured in the US and handed over to Dictators to use on their own population. For example:Kurds.

A unlegal WMD, is not manufactured in the US, to use for their own Defence. For example: When someone tryes to steal oil, by invading the country.

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« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2003, 10:36:39 AM »
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Maniac

A legal WMD, is manufactured in the US and handed over to Dictators to use on their own population. For example:Kurds.

A unlegal WMD, is not manufactured in the US, to use for their own Defence. For example: When someone tryes to steal oil, by invading the country.


Thank you, Crabo.

You've just rendered youself moot.
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« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2003, 11:00:46 AM »
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Thank you, Crabo.

You've just rendered youself mute.


Muting everyone who doesn't follow the Party line?

It seems to me I have heard this somewhere before... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2003, 11:16:43 AM »
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Muting everyone who doesn't follow the Party line?

It seems to me I have heard this somewhere before... :rolleyes:


Boroda-

You're a putz.

*smacks Boroda on nose with rolled up copy of Pravda*

I meant his argument is baseless and is therefore moot.
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« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2003, 11:22:39 AM »
probably you meant "moot"   ;)

adj.
Subject to debate; arguable: a moot question.

b. Of no practical importance; irrelevant.
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« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2003, 11:23:36 AM »
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Boroda-

You're a putz.

*smacks Boroda on nose with rolled up copy of Pravda*

I meant his argument is baseless and is therefore mute.

You mean "moot," not "mute," don't you?

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« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2003, 11:25:44 AM »
you need to work on that "draw" Lonestar, beat ya by a minute ;)
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« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2003, 11:27:58 AM »
That's what I said, moot.

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« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2003, 11:44:07 AM »
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That's what I said, moot.

*whistles innocently as he slides toward the door*

;)


Sorry :D

Looks like some people here really love Pravda style :D They are definetly makeing good use of Soviet experience :D

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« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2003, 11:46:51 AM »
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Hussein = evil dictator  - okay
Hussein = evil dictator developing WMD - prove it.


My point is that neither has shown up since the war.

Your "proof" that WMD do not exist is that we have not uncovered WMD's, so to be consistent, you must also believe that SH does not exist.  

The same proof exists for both.

Proving the non-existence of WMD is nearly impossible, as all one needs to do is find a few barrels buried in the desert somewhere.  

Skepticism is fine, and pretty much required, but skepticism is not the same as coming to the conclusion of non-existence.

The only logical conclusion one can come to regarding WMD at the present time is "I don't know, I need more information."
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« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2003, 11:52:21 AM »
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My point is that neither has shown up since the war.

Your "proof" that WMD do not exist is that we have not uncovered WMD's, so to be consistent, you must also believe that SH does not exist.  

The same proof exists for both.

Proving the non-existence of WMD is nearly impossible, as all one needs to do is find a few barrels buried in the desert somewhere.  

Skepticism is fine, and pretty much required, but skepticism is not the same as coming to the conclusion of non-existence.

The only logical conclusion one can come to regarding WMD at the present time is "I don't know, I need more information."


Absolute nonsense WRT existence of Hussein but the rest agrees with:

Hussein = evil dictator - true
Hussein = evil dictator with WMD - no evidence yet

No evidence yet = prove it
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« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2003, 11:55:30 AM »
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Sorry :D

Looks like some people here really love Pravda style :D They are definetly makeing good use of Soviet experience :D


Great time for the spelling police to flick on the lights and sirens, huh?

You guys know what I meant. Well, everyone but Boroda, and I think English is his second language.

You're still a putz, though.;)

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« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2003, 02:17:16 PM »
Oh NO!!!

Muckmaw muted me, Am I suposed to jump off a bridge now?

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« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2003, 03:53:53 PM »
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No evidence yet = prove it


I am amazed you do not see the parallel logic.

SH:   No evidence yet = prove it

I am not advocating that he is dead or never existed, I am just pointing out the flaw in many people's reasoning that because evidence has yet to be found, that none exists.

If I used that logic, my car keys would not exist about once every six weeks.  If I look for them long enough, I find them.

Four months is not very long in the grand scheme of things.

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« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2003, 04:17:45 PM »
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If I used that logic, my car keys would not exist about once every six weeks.  If I look for them long enough, I find them.



The analogy really doesn't seem to fit simply because of the massive quantities of weapons that were alleged to exist.

Four months is indeed a long time considering that Bush was unwilling to wait even a few weeks.


But hey... I could be wrong with my doubts of ever finding the WMD, but I'm betting that twelve months from now, they'll still be searching.
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