Author Topic: 'Do not call' Participants Screwed (Read 1588 times)

Westy · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2003, 06:07:03 PM »

I don't buy the bit about the small man (ex/ roofers, landscapers or plowmen) or Mom & Pop stores being the overall victim here Trell. I've never, ever had a call from a Mom and Pop store, a roofer or a handman. It's always been life insurance, some gimmicky get rich scheme, a time share or some other bull**** offering.

"what would you rather have a couple phone calls a day or a few door to door sales men a day? "

I don't want either. Period.

If I want a servcice or a product I ask for references (word of mouth) or I look them up in the phone book or local paper. If they can't afford that, then they can't afford to be automatically blacklisted by me and others for making unwanted, annoying phone calls.

DWG · « **Reply #31 on:** September 24, 2003, 06:40:32 PM »

If you want to call Judge Lee West his number is: 405/609-5000.

MRPLUTO (something wrong with BB...had to register as new person to get in)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #32 on:** September 24, 2003, 06:58:48 PM »

It will be appealed in a higher court and be overturned, then the "Do not call" list will get even more exposure.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #33 on:** September 24, 2003, 07:18:27 PM »

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I don't the bit about it being the small man (ex:roofers, landscapers or plowmen) or Mom and Pop stores being the overall victim here Trell. I've never, ever had a call from a Mom and Pop store, a roofer or a handman. It's always been life insurance, some gimmicky get rich scheme, a time share or some other bull**** offering.

what he said.

Twist · « **Reply #34 on:** September 24, 2003, 07:49:59 PM »

Yet another story of a federal judge stomping all over the will of the people.

I agree with Rip, it will go through eventually with increased exposure.

What bothers me is that a federal judge, once again, over-rides the majority,and caters to the demands of another big business/special interest group. Did the FTC over step their bounds? Not sure, I was led to believe they were taking action against unrequested solicitation because of consumer complaints when they sought to compile this list.

Looks like it's time to do some surfing and see what I can dig up on this.

I have privacy director here at home but have not had a call in a long time. I tend to think if I dropped this service, my name would pop up on another list and the wolves would once again move in.

**Note for any potential political candidates out there; do away with SPAM and telemarketers and your a shoe-in in 2004

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Tarmac · « **Reply #35 on:** September 24, 2003, 08:36:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Twist
Yet another story of a federal judge stomping all over the will of the people.

What bothers me is that a federal judge, once again, over-rides the majority,and caters to the demands of another big business/special interest group. Did the FTC over step their bounds? Not sure, I was led to believe they were taking action against unrequested solicitation because of consumer complaints when they sought to compile this list.

Federal judges are appointed (ie not elected) for a reason - to resist political the political pressure of the masses. While the masses want to do what's best for the masses, this is not always what's best for the country and its founding principles.

It's a judge's job to do what is right, not what is popular. If judges had done what was popular in the Brown vs Board of Ed case, we'd probably still have racially segregated schools.

It is not a judge's job to listen to the people, it is his job to ensure that the Constitution and the laws passed under the authority of the constitution are applied fairly. Likewise, his lack of political accountability (by his life tenure) should remove most big-business influences.

I'm not saying that this judge necessarily made the best call on this case. I hope he ignored the political pressure from the big business special interests as much as he ignored the political pressure from the people, and made his decision based on his best interpretation of the current laws.

Maverick · « **Reply #36 on:** September 24, 2003, 08:45:14 PM »

I started using a new way to discourage telemarketers. Those who are friends know I answer the phone this way and are expecting it. I simply answer it with a nonsensical business opening. Example, "Mortuary and proctology associates, we always get you in the end." About all I ever hear is the line going dead or dead silence. After a short while my dinner time became very quiet.

Trell · « **Reply #37 on:** September 24, 2003, 09:31:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Westy
I don't buy the bit about the small man (ex/ roofers, landscapers or plowmen) or Mom & Pop stores being the overall victim here Trell. I've never, ever had a call from a Mom and Pop store, a roofer or a handman. It's always been life insurance, some gimmicky get rich scheme, a time share or some other bull**** offering.

It sounds like you get the calls that I dont get

what I mostly get is credit card calls,
companys that wanna switch my phone servise,
nonprophit companys, ie donating blood or money to the cops
and the oakland press and dretoit freepress.
(btw the only one of these that this law affects is the newpapper one. and that is only if you dont get the paper already)

Every once in a while I get seasonal calls normaly in the spring fall and winter.

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Trell · « **Reply #38 on:** September 24, 2003, 11:54:50 PM »

I just love how we need to make a law to punish people.
becasue they dont want to be bothered.
just dont answer the phone, or use a privicy director.
if you have caller id it will show as an unavailble number if it is a big telamarketing company.

you would think if everyone hated them they would not make any money.

but telamarketing is a billion dollor servise.
it helps lots of buesnisses

ok so now they cant advertise on the phone,
You dont want them to knock on your door.
so this counts out small and or seasonal buesnisses.

Next y dont weban all advertising.,.

Y dont you just shoot anyone you dont like because you dont wanna be bothered!!
(btw i know this is a stupid argument.)
but it seams like you are willing to inderectly
fire thousands of people from there jobs.
In this economy some would think it about the same as shooting them.

Any one want to show me how this will not hurt this country?
how it will not puts tens of thousans of people out of work?
how companys will not close becasue of this?

how these same jobs will NOT just be shipped overseas faster.
and guess what
YOU WILL JUST GET THE CALLS FROM SOME INDIAN INSTED OF AN AMERICIAN.
If I have a tellamarketer calling me I wannt it to be an AMERICIAN ONE

.the americian that is now out of work will just be on wellfare and unenployment on our tax dollars
becasue we put him there.

carry on with the screwing of americians

pugsly · « **Reply #39 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:17:30 AM »

Trust me if i could track down tele terroist I would SHOOT them:mad:

pugsly · « **Reply #40 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:18:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
I started using a new way to discourage telemarketers. Those who are friends know I answer the phone this way and are expecting it. I simply answer it with a nonsensical business opening. Example, "Mortuary and proctology associates, we always get you in the end." About all I ever hear is the line going dead or dead silence. After a short while my dinner time became very quiet.

Sandman · « **Reply #41 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:20:31 AM »

Very cool avatar, Mr. Pugsly.

pugsly · « **Reply #42 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:22:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
It is really easy to stop them.

You know the sound you get when you dial a number that is not in service? Record it, put it in the leader of your incoming message. It stops them cold.
The systems they use hear that sound and drop your number from their list so it will not be called again.

We were getting up to 30 calls a day! I did that on our answering machine and we have not gotten a call in months.

LOL skuzzy your an evile man!! But I like the way you think:D

icemaw · « **Reply #43 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:31:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Trell
I just love how we need to make a law to punish people.
becasue they dont want to be bothered.
just dont answer the phone, or use a privicy director.
if you have caller id it will show as an unavailble number if it is a big telamarketing company.

you would think if everyone hated them they would not make any money.

but telamarketing is a billion dollor servise.
it helps lots of buesnisses

ok so now they cant advertise on the phone,
You dont want them to knock on your door.
so this counts out small and or seasonal buesnisses.

Next y dont weban all advertising.,.

Y dont you just shoot anyone you dont like because you dont wanna be bothered!!
(btw i know this is a stupid argument.)
but it seams like you are willing to inderectly
fire thousands of people from there jobs.
In this economy some would think it about the same as shooting them.

Any one want to show me how this will not hurt this country?
how it will not puts tens of thousans of people out of work?
how companys will not close becasue of this?

how these same jobs will NOT just be shipped overseas faster.
and guess what
YOU WILL JUST GET THE CALLS FROM SOME INDIAN INSTED OF AN AMERICIAN.
If I have a tellamarketer calling me I wannt it to be an AMERICIAN ONE

.the americian that is now out of work will just be on wellfare and unenployment on our tax dollars
becasue we put him there.

carry on with the screwing of americians

Um 50 million people signed up to stop a couple thousand from harrassing them. There are still 100 million more out there not on the list. They must want to be called over and over again by telemarketers. Fine let them but I have a right not to be harrassed by these people AMERICAN or not I dont want to be hassled at home. If a couple thousand cant make a living harrassing the 100 million americans not on the do not call list them screw them. They aint very good at it and deserve to loose their jobs. This is not about putting people out of work it does not stop them from calling people not on the list. All it does is protect the ones that dont want to be called.

The needs of 50 million far outweighs the needs of a couple
thousand!

Sandman · « **Reply #44 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:41:54 AM »

When my kids were toddlers, I used to just hand the phone to them. The loved to talk and they didn't care who was on the other side.