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Offline capt. apathy

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2003, 11:03:51 AM »
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I'd like to see some examples from a source aside from Fox News that demonstrates the media's ability to be on the conservative side of a debate.


you don't remember the lywinski(sp?) scandel?  the 'libral' media didn't exactly brush over that.  a story is a story and the more scandalus or horific they can find that's what makes a 'good' story.

if anything they are out to slant the stoory to get ratings.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2003, 11:05:31 AM »
Yeah, darn conservative owned media.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2003, 01:19:39 PM »
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You resort to personal attack without fail yet still think you smell of roses, Rude. Sorry, but I'm not convinced. You hold yourself up as some kind of fountain of knowledge - I think I'll pass.



Please share with me what was so personal...as to a fountain of knowledge? Hardly. The difference between you and I is simple....you believe you know everything whereas I know you don't:)

I do know this though....the real truth NEVER lies in the middle...it is what it is regardless of how we may try to dress it.

Oh, one more difference....my skin is old and hard while your's is obviously soft as a baby's
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2003, 01:42:23 PM »
Rude, you're watching the wrong stuff.  Stick with Fox, Rush, and NewsMax, and you should get the picture that you want.

There's something out there for everyone.  :)
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2003, 01:48:02 PM »
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Originally posted by popeye
Rude, you're watching the wrong stuff.  Stick with Fox, Rush, and NewsMax, and you should get the picture that you want.

There's something out there for everyone.  :)


I want an honest, unbiased view of the truth.

What channel is that on?
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2003, 02:11:26 PM »
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I want an honest, unbiased view of the truth.

What channel is that on?



Newspapers more than broadcast and no Rupert Murdoch media. CNN is pretty shallow but good for the breaking story, otherwise way too much cheesy speculation (but what if Napoleon had a B-52 at the battle of Waterloo?). Non fiction books on the subjects and regions in question, ones that people from both extremes seem to disparage. Check out: The Iron Wall by Avi Shlaim for a different perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian problems. Frontline on PBS - can't be beat as far as actually taking the necessary time to cover an issue. Anything that goes into boring, non soundbite detail :)

And remember, both the pro and con spin are usually only a small part of why an issue is supported or resisted. I do know this first hand. It's amazing to see common industry knowledge go unreported in the mainstream media, but still hear the weak soundbites that are technically true (or at least not clearly false) and that sell well to the target audiences passed off as the whole story.

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2003, 02:37:06 PM »
You guys better stay put in IRAQ and rebuild the country. Then install a democratic goverment and leave.
So that after a couple of years, some religiouse nuts can overtrow it and it all starts from the beginning again.

You shure knows how to waste both money and human lifes.

I dont know how much you lost, but towards my currency your dollar have lost about 25% since october last year and it is still dropping, faster and faster.

The rest of the world is just hoping of the re-election of GWB, so he can drive your country really into the state of bancrupcy.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2003, 02:50:23 PM »
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Originally posted by popeye
Rude, you're watching the wrong stuff.  Stick with Fox, Rush, and NewsMax, and you should get the picture that you want.

There's something out there for everyone.  :)


Heyas Popeye...don't cya up in the MA anymore...you retire?

As to the news, I believe one must sample all outlets and realize the motives behind the delivery....I don't need the news to know that to remove Sadam, rebuild the countries infrastructure, establish peace and help the Iraqi people install a representative government, would require longer than 5 months and would certainly have upfront costs of more than 100 Billion dollars.

However, the cost for this endeavor will  be mitigated by Iraqi oil...the numbers and stress currently blamed on the administration are half of the truth.:)
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2003, 02:55:07 PM »
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Originally posted by crabofix
You guys better stay put in IRAQ and rebuild the country. Then install a democratic goverment and leave.
So that after a couple of years, some religiouse nuts can overtrow it and it all starts from the beginning again.

You shure knows how to waste both money and human lifes.

I dont know how much you lost, but towards my currency your dollar have lost about 25% since october last year and it is still dropping, faster and faster.

The rest of the world is just hoping of the re-election of GWB, so he can drive your country really into the state of bancrupcy.


If the Duke were alive, he'd kick your arse.

To your credit, at least you have the stones to say what you really feel rather than most on this board from overseas....deep inside, they can't wait to see the US fail.

Well, guess what....we go down and so do your socialist behinds....now that's kinda funny.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2003, 03:01:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Rude

Well, guess what....we go down and so do your socialist behinds....now that's kinda funny.


You know what is kinda funny, the gas here is just getting cheaper and cheaper
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2003, 03:19:25 PM »
Hiya Rude,

Haven't retired, just taking a break waiting for AHII.

I think the US economy will benefit from more than Iraq's oil.  The entire Iraqi economy, with the exception of oil and other natural resources, will soon be open to foreign investment.  Taxes will be capped at 15 percent.  It will be a fire sale for those with connections to the CPA and Governing Council.  Since the Iraqi industries will not be able to compete with those from the West, anything and everything of value will be snapped up and squeezed dry.  The question is:  how much of the profits will find its way into the US Treasury?
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2003, 03:52:21 PM »
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However, the cost for this endeavor will be mitigated by Iraqi oil...


Just last week Bremer (IIRC) said that Iraq was "too poor to pay for the reconstruction due to the large debt owed to France and Russia."
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2003, 03:59:50 PM »
It might just be a matter of time before the world starts counting the Oilprice in  Rubels per barrel or Euro per barrel.
Now thats not kinda funny, thats real funny.:lol
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2003, 04:17:44 PM »
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Originally posted by crabofix
I dont know how much you lost, but towards my currency your dollar have lost about 25% since october last year and it is still dropping, faster and faster.



So lets see,  if our goods now cost 25% less for you to buy and your goods cost us 25 % more to buy what is the result of your statement ?
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2003, 04:25:58 PM »
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Originally posted by ygsmilo
So lets see,  if our goods now cost 25% less for you to buy and your goods cost us 25 % more to buy what is the result of your statement ?



That you guys wont by any Volvos? Or SAAB?
You quit buying LAW´s?

Duh, we will go bancrupt!!

I should have listen to my mom, she always naged on me to finish the elementery school. Might just do that some day.
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