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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2003, 12:05:14 PM »
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Here's a good example... The Wellstone Memorial service.

Everyone thinks it was a huge Democratic partisan rally. In reality only one speaker mentioned the election to any great extent in the entire 3 hour program. The boos received by Lott were reported as a "smattering" the next day in the Minnesota press, but have been blown into "20,000 liberals screaming" by Limbaugh and his ilk.  Think about what you have heard or think you know about the service. Do you think your information was skewed right or left?


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From a LEFT leaning publication in Minnesota (St.Paul Pioneer Press)
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"I can still hear that strong, clear voice calling for me that it is now our time to stand up for the people he fought for," Rick Kahn, a former student of Mr. Wellstone's at Carleton College, said of the late senator in a spirited eulogy that sounded like a get-out-the-vote speech. "Can you not hear your friend calling you, one last time, one step forward on his behalf, to keep his legacy alive and help us win this election for Paul Wellstone."

Some 20,000 people packed into two sports stadiums on the University of Minnesota campus here tonight to remember Mr. Wellstone, his wife of 39 years, Sheila, their daughter Marica Markuson and three other victims of Friday's fiery crash in northern Minnesota, in an unusual service that was, at once, a touching memorial for beloved friends and a rousing political rally for Democrats desperate to retain control of the Senate.

At Mr. Kahn's words, people sprang to their feet, as the face of Walter F. Mondale, the former vice president who is likely to replace Mr. Wellstone on Tuesday's ballot, flashed on the Jumbotron. The spontaneous chant was a muddle of "Wellstone, Wellstone!" and "Mondale, Mondale!"

Later, the Wellstone's youngest child, Mark, would lead the crowd in a roar of "We will win!"

In attendance were former President Bill Clinton; former Vice President Al Gore; the Rev. Jesse Jackson; the actor Michael J. Fox; and at least half the Senate.

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2003, 12:08:44 PM »
Where's the BS Rip. Kahn was the one guy I'm talking about. Read the Eulogy by Wellstone's Son. Hardly term that as mainly political.

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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2003, 12:09:18 PM »
what's the point?
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2003, 12:11:29 PM »
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Dateline NBC fabricated a story about the safety of saddlebag-style gas tanks on GMC trucks and got everybody in an uproar about how unsafe they were when struck from the side.  In a dramatic video segment, NBC showed a GMC truck being broadsided and going up in flames.

But GMC isn't stupid.

They investigated the segment and found the trucks that were actually used in the demonstration.  Seems that after NBC was done with them, the smoldering hulks were sold to a junkyard for salvage. GM traced the VIN numbers and found the trucks in the yard untouched since delivery from NBC's wrecker.  Attached to the beds of the trucks, under the sheetmetal, were model rocket motors.  GMC sued NBC (for demation I believe) and won.


Found more info about this and wanted to clear up misconceptions.  Seems NBC avoided the lawsuit by issuing an on-air apology for misleading the public.

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Failure Analysis has been called in on many high-profile cases. When Dateline NBC showed a car plowing into the side of a GMC truck with side-saddle gas tanks, a made-for-TV collision that produced a dramatic fireball, General Motors got suspicious. GM scored a major PR body-slam when Failure Analysis showed, using computerized video enhancement (and searching dozens of junkyards to find the actual vehicles), that puffs of smoke appeared a fraction of a second before the collision. NBC had rigged the truck with rocket motors to ensure it exploded telegenically. The network wound up eating on-air crow to forestall the libel case of the century.

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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2003, 12:13:05 PM »
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Kahn was the one guy I'm talking about.


Ah, sorry.  But, the entire thing was a show, for good reason though...they (the Dems) were desperate for power and control.

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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2003, 12:19:34 PM »
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Ah, sorry.  But, the entire thing was a show, for good reason though...they (the Dems) were desperate for power and control.


Your knowledge of the memorial proves my point. There were some partisan moments, but the vast majority of the 3 hour show was a spontaneous tribute.

The right wing press twisted it, then the lazy press used the twisted story as if it were fact. Look it up for yourself.

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2003, 12:20:13 PM »
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Erlkonig You should tone it up. I mean really let is all hang out, then maybe your proby tag will go away.... with you.


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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2003, 12:31:48 PM »
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Your knowledge of the memorial proves my point. There were some partisan moments, but the vast majority of the 3 hour show was a spontaneous tribute.

The right wing press twisted it, then the lazy press used the twisted story as if it were fact. Look it up for yourself.


What made news that day was the behavior of his son...or was he not accountable for the direction he tried to take the event?

It was a non-event, all of it, for me personally.

MT....we can all find ammunition to support our premise...the real question is as a whole, is the media biased to the left or the right?

Fox and Friends has become slanted to the right...embarrassing for me to watch sometimes....the whole network however, stays centered with some exceptions.

I watch more liberal news coverage than I do conservative...I find the content and perspective interesting.

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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2003, 12:36:04 PM »
Read Bernie Goldberg's BIAS.

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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2003, 12:38:37 PM »
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Your knowledge of the memorial proves my point. There were some partisan moments, but the vast majority of the 3 hour show was a spontaneous tribute.

The right wing press twisted it, then the lazy press used the twisted story as if it were fact. Look it up for yourself.


The very fact that it was brought up at all at a funeral is appalling enough MT, and if you "don't get that" then its not worth explaining.:rolleyes:

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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2003, 12:44:47 PM »
Which news services do you think are most extreme?

For example:

New York Times: Very Left
New York Post: Very Right
Fox News: Right
CNN: Left


etc.

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2003, 12:49:03 PM »
Right, left... whatever... they are all sensational.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2003, 12:49:14 PM »
It wasn't a funeral. The participants and speakers had already attended 5 or 6 funerals. It was a memorial to the people who lost their lives in a plane crash.  Including a man who spent his adult life as a politician. Try to leave politics completely out of that. Once again, I bet everyone on this board got "the facts" on the memorial from the press. I bet no one actually watched the whole thing on C-span.

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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2003, 12:53:09 PM »
the media sux, all of it, well most of it.

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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2003, 01:00:46 PM »
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It wasn't a funeral. The participants and speakers had already attended 5 or 6 funerals. It was a memorial to the people who lost their lives in a plane crash.  Including a man who spent his adult life as a politician. Try to leave politics completely out of that. Once again, I bet everyone on this board got "the facts" on the memorial from the press. I bet no one actually watched the whole thing on C-span.

Can you remember any other memorial service where people were chanting political slogans?  I can't.   The fact that some of the dead were not public figures made it even less appropriate.  The event was hijacked by partisans, even if not everyone there was interested in partisanship.

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