Author Topic: Audio of Lancaster under nightfighter attack (Read 5907 times)

TigerStolly · « **on:** September 25, 2003, 04:58:48 PM »

I'm sure this has been posted before, but i get a kick out of listening to it all the same.

I thought i'd post it in case someone has never heard it.

As far as i know it is authentic.

Its a Wav file 400k

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:32:01 PM »

WOW!

I've never heard this recording, but it seems authentic...I just don't think writers and actors could produce something that sounds so natural.

Do you have any other info about who/what/when/where?

Thanks for posting this link, Tiger.

MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33

DFunited · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:56:49 PM »

WOW!!!!!
thats incredible. Ive never heard anything so realistic. Thats an awesome recording. Thanks for posting it.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2003, 07:21:44 PM »

Been posted before. Its a Lancaster being attacked by Bf-110 and shooting it down.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2003, 07:32:47 PM »

Why does the pilot ask the navigator to increase the revs? Did the Lancaster pilot not have direct control of the engine throttles?

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2003, 07:36:57 PM »

David--

Thanks for the details.

Perhaps the pilot needs both hands on the yoke, so the navigator adjusts the throttle for him. Just a guess.

MRPLUTO

palef · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2003, 09:08:29 PM »

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Originally posted by davidpt40
Why does the pilot ask the navigator to increase the revs? Did the Lancaster pilot not have direct control of the engine throttles?

The Lancaster had a Flight Engineer in place of a Co-Pilot. He did all the systems management stuff to free the pilot up to fly the aircraft. Sometimes the Navigator or Flight Engineer had minimal flight training to enable them to fly the aircraft if the pilot was killed.

Below is a link to a typical example of a Lancaster Crew list. It's from the back of a photo.
http://www.eagle.ca/~harry/images/lancu2.jpg

palef

WldThing · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2003, 09:51:59 PM »

Simply amazing..

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:40:24 PM »

I've listened to this recording several times today and each time it becomes more extraordinary. In fact, it is one of the most amazing historical documents I have ever experienced, and I've seen, heard, and read a lot.

MRPLUTO

WldThing · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:01:24 PM »

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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
I've listened to this recording several times today and each time it becomes more extraordinary. In fact, it is one of the most amazing historical documents I have ever experienced, and I've seen, heard, and read a lot.

MRPLUTO

I get shivers down my spine everytime i listen to it

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:45:04 PM »

I admire the way someone (I don't think it's the pilot, maybe the bombardier?) gets the crew focused again after the Bf-110 is shot down..."Keep weaving, there's some flak coming up!" Then the pilot says, "Don't shout all at once!"

The way they are weaving to avoid fighters and flak just a minute before bombs away is one reason the night bombing was often terribly innacurate. If I remember correctly, I determined from reading some figures that bombs were considered "on target" if dropped anywhere in an area about 1/3 the size of a 25 x 25 mile AcesHigh map grid. Dang, in AcesHigh I don't even need a bombsight to do that from 25k! Then again, I have what amounts to a global positioning system.

MRPLUTO

wipass · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2003, 01:28:24 AM »

It is a fake, undoubtedly

wipass

TigerStolly · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2003, 02:50:51 AM »

I'd be interested to know how you are so sure

If its a fake then someone went to an awful amount of trouble even to the point of getting the 1940's UK and Australian / NZ accents. Did you spot the commonwealth crew member ? You'd have to be British to notice the very small twang in one of the voices.

Realistically if this is not the real deal someone spent quite some time, professional skill and indeed money on this. Apart from for a film i can't see why someone would want to. I've not heard this clip in any film and i've seen all that i know of.

I do also know that audio recording devices were carried as routine by ELINT aircraft of 100 group and on occasion by main force aircraft. So its entirely plausable.

IMHO

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The thing that still grabs me afte listening to it many times is how cool and professional they are. More often than not meeting a night fighter resulted in death for the bomber crew or the rest of the war in a cage at best. They came within a nats whisker but 10 seconds later its "Shows over chaps on with the job"

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2003, 09:31:33 AM »

wipass,

If you think it's a fake, please tell us why.

MRPLUTO

Batz · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2003, 11:47:17 AM »

it is a fake and has been posted many times on many boards. Even on this board. Search you may find the answers.