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Offline Wanker

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« on: October 02, 2003, 08:13:31 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/10/01/men.brain.reut/index.html

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- It's the universal question on many women's lips. "What could he be thinking?" she shrieks, or sighs or sulks at her husband, boyfriend or son.

What is it with men and cars? Why doesn't he notice how much housework needs to be done? Why does he need to keep a grip on the remote control? And the most bewildering one of all -- why won't he just talk to me?

The answers, says social philosopher and author Michael Gurian, lie not in laziness, sexism or sheer pigheadedness but in profound differences between the male and female brain -- and scientists now have the technology to prove it.

"What Could He Be Thinking? How a Man's Mind Really Works," combines two decades of neurobiological research with anecdotes from everyday life and Gurian's experience as a family therapist to present a new vision of the male psyche.

It's a vision that Gurian hopes will help promote a better understanding of men and reverse what he sees as the dangerous assumption born of the past 40 years of radical femininism that men have simply become redundant.

"As a culture, we've made profound mistakes in the last few decades by assuming that men were unnecessary. Many people have even gone so far as to negate or dismiss what is at the core of a man," Gurian writes.

Gurian, author of the 1996 groundbreaking book "The Wonder of Boys" and its follow-up "The Wonder of Girls," is no anti-feminist. He is married with two daughters, and his book mines the field of brain science to help improve relations between couples.

Culture plays a part, but Gurian argues that biology matters much more than previously realized.

"The science has been crucial. Wherever I go, I start by showing PET scans and people can see for themselves the differences between the male and female brain. I think that alters life and marriages," Gurian told Reuters.

The science part
Such are the advances in technology and understanding that PET radioactive-imaging and MRI magnetic-imaging scans can now show whether a man and a woman are truly in love by measuring the amount of activity in the cingulate gyrus, an emotion center in the brain, Gurian says.

Like a guide through a secret forest, his book leads the nonscientist through the complex world of brain science and relates it to some of the most frustrating sources of conflict between men and women in long-term relationships.

The male brain secretes less of the powerful primary bonding chemical oxytocin and less of the calming chemical serotonin than the female brain.

So while women find emotional conversations a good way to chill out at the end of the day, the tired male brain needs to zone out all that touchy-feely chatter in order to relax -- which is why he wants the remote control to zap through "mindless" sport or action movies.

His brain takes in less sensory detail than a woman's, so he doesn't see or even feel the dust and household mess in the same way. Anyhow, the male brain attaches less personal identity to the inside of a home and more to the workplace or the yard -- which is why he doesn't get worked up about housework.

Male hormones such as testosterone and vasopressin set the male brain up to seek competitive, hierarchical groups in its constant quest to prove self-worth and identity. That is why men, paradoxically (from a hormonally altered new mother's point of view), become even more workaholic once they have kids, to whom they must also prove their worth.

Back to nature
Gurian says his book is aimed mainly at women. "Men get this already. They are living this brain but they don't have the conscious language to explain it. Women are not living it.

"If they are relating to a man, I hope they will be touched, informed and entertained and will have a new vision of the way they can make their relationship work.

"I beg people to go back to nature, look at the PET scans, look at the brain differences and see if it makes sense."

If it does, the consequences are profound for a generation of "liberated" women brought up to believe it is men who have to change, and men who must respond to a female way of relating in order for marriage to succeed.

Gurian says men can learn new skills and alter their behavior but they will not be able to meet all of women's expectations.

"Popular culture focuses so much on trying to get people closer. Most people believe that marriages break up because men and women are not close enough. But what I am learning about the brain leads to the idea of intimate separateness, in which the brain seeks less intimacy at times," Gurian said.

"People want to love each other. If we can learn who we might be -- not what IS he thinking, but what COULD he be thinking -- then I am optimistic."

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 09:33:51 AM »
Interesting. Maybe if I can get my wife to look at his work I can stop putting the damn toilet seat down? ;)
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2003, 11:22:24 AM »
AK, you are p*ssywhipped! First day I moved to live with my GF in the same apartment I made it clear that the correct toilet seat position is the position it was left last time, so its dependant on user...


:)

My ex-GF thought had some problems with toothpaste and toilet paper (the way it would roll out easier, I couldnt care less)

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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2003, 11:27:46 AM »
They ask the quetion "What could a man be thinking" because there isn't enough funding in the world to possibly commission a study on what the woman could be thinking.

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2003, 11:32:14 AM »
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AK, you are p*ssywhipped! First day I moved to live with my GF in the same apartment I made it clear that the correct toilet seat position is the position it was left last time, so its dependant on user...


:)

My ex-GF thought had some problems with toothpaste and toilet paper (the way it would roll out easier, I couldnt care less)


Can't deny it, though it did take her the better part of 20 years to get me trained.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2003, 12:03:30 PM »
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Interesting. Maybe if I can get my wife to look at his work I can stop putting the damn toilet seat down?


I won that particular battle.

basicly it went something like this.

"so if I leave the seat up, and you go into the bathroom sit down, and fall in the bowl, thats my fault?"

"yes"

"but you didn't check, the seat position before you sat down"

"it should already be down"

"so it's the responsability of the last person to use it to insure proper positioning? not the person who is getting ready to use it"

"right"

"so if you leave the seat down and our son pisses all over it, then it's your own fault if you come back and sit on a pissy seat"

"no, it would be his fault because he should lift it before he pisses"

"no, you said it was the last persons responsability, you should have put it in the up position so it would be ready for him"

"how would I know a guy would be next to use it?"

"how would I know a girl would be next to use it?"

"that's different"

"how?"

silence

me "and one other thing, if someone closes the lid before you use it, you're cleaning up that mess, the female side of this argument is stupid, take responsability for yourself and check before you sit"

not only did I win the argument, but just to mess with the minds of other women, she leaves the seat up in the ladies room in public restrooms.

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2003, 12:05:19 PM »
lol...

A well thougt out argument.  
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2003, 12:10:20 PM »
My wife and I enjoy the luxury of separate bathrooms.  And she cleans both of them.

On the downside, she has priority on the computer time so she can do her schoolwork.

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2003, 12:19:46 PM »
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I won that particular battle.


A wife that listens to reason, you lucky bast@rd. ;)

Besides, all my kids are out of the house now.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2003, 12:26:24 PM »
Once again, science takes zillions of dollars to find out what common sense already told us.  :)

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2003, 12:39:05 PM »
BTW have you guys noticed that when you are around girls tend to get "stupid" ie.  asking how to do that and how to do this, just simple home chores like changing a lightbulb (ok ok , its quite rare but just an example..) and they ask opinions a lot.

Like they have lost all confidence or sumthin...

OK next you try to stay unnoticed and TADAA!! all those things go away , girls just use their own brain and work a solution to accomplish those tasks.

1) either girls just are smart and make us to do everything
2) they want to be noticed (my vote)
3) or their intelligence drops when the smell of man lurks around..

Go figure, but I have noticed this kind of behaviour on multiple females..

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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2003, 04:08:13 PM »
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I won that particular battle.


Impossible. I don't buy it. OK, maybe she gave in, but you paid later... right? They can be insidious you know. Maybe she's on a long term poisoning campaign by raising your cholesterol... you will die before she does and she will laugh all the way to the bathroom where she will super-glue the seat down. muahahahahaha!

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2003, 04:34:45 PM »
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The male brain secretes less of the powerful primary bonding chemical oxytocin and less of the calming chemical serotonin than the female brain.


Now I have my excuse black on white, thanks!
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2003, 06:55:41 PM »
I did neglect to mention that we had that particular discusion about twice a week for a couple years before I won (I do believe she finally got the point when my son was potty training, and she sat on a wet seat, that she had left down).