Author Topic: Production Costs for WWII Equipment (Read 802 times)

NJMAW · « **on:** October 02, 2003, 11:32:00 AM »

I have been wondering how mich did planes tanks and weapons in general cost to produce per copy?

I know that a P38J ran about 90k+ and a P51D was over 50K.

Anyone have a webpage or any idea how much these things cost?

Staga · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2003, 01:08:47 PM »

PzIV Ausf.G: 103.462 reich marks without armament.

NJMAW · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2003, 05:34:13 PM »

Do you know the exchange rate for DM back them?

Curval · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2003, 06:08:43 PM »

It would be virually impossible to "cost" German equipment.

Slave labour is a tough thing to figure out. You have to feed them...although not much. Then there is the housing, de-lousing, guards, trucks to carry out those who have been worked to death..etc, etc.

It's all part of the cost of production.

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2003, 06:13:10 PM »

NJMAW:

World War 2 Aircraft and GV Costs (1940-1941 figures)

SBD-2 Dauntless $ 59,814
B-17 $ 200,000
B-26 $130,000
OS2U Kingfisher $49,195

M-3 $33,500

[Source: World War II Almanac 1931-1945, by Robert Goralski]

MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2003, 06:21:05 PM »

Curval,

Actually the Nazis did a very accurate job of calculating the cost of slave labor. They figured out just how much it would take to keep people barely alive. They even calculated the value of the corpse: gold teeth, for example. Pretty sick.

MRPLUTO

GScholz · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2003, 07:16:49 PM »

AFAIK the Germans didn't use slaves in the production of tanks or other high-tech (at that time) items. I do know they were used in the ammo factories and for general labor. German tanks were of very high quality compared to most others (if not all).

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2003, 07:49:12 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
AFAIK the Germans didn't use slaves in the production of tanks or other high-tech (at that time) items. I do know they were used in the ammo factories and for general labor. German tanks were of very high quality compared to most others (if not all).

Me163s, V1s, V2s and He162s were all built using slave labor. I don't know about Me262s.

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2003, 10:21:46 PM »

I've read that the munitions made by slave labor had much higher dud rates than those made by paid, loyal workers.

A combination of sabotage and lack of motivation, obviously.

MRPLUTO

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »

262's as well. All Messer's. Willy did a little time in stir for that.

Angus · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2003, 04:11:22 AM »

1940-1941. 5000 pounds per Spitfire. Can't remember the price of beer at the time though.

TimRas · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2003, 08:10:51 AM »

http://www.usaaf.net/digest/t82.htm

airbumba · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2003, 08:40:37 AM »

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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
I've read that the munitions made by slave labor had much higher dud rates than those made by paid, loyal workers.

A combination of sabotage and lack of motivation, obviously.

MRPLUTO

To change this to modern times...
I always wondered when the US sells certain missiles, like say a 'sidewinder' wouldn't it be prudent to install a chip that would make the missile miss it's target if it were fired on an American plane?

It would be simple to do, you just need some sort of I.D.ing software that could read the radar profile then send the missile just a bit offcourse? I mean it couldn't be blatent, like a self destruct, but maybe just a premature detonation?

Just wonderin.

Bumba

Ouch · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2003, 10:04:39 AM »

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Originally posted by airbumba

It would be simple to do, you just need some sort of I.D.ing software that could read the radar profile then send the missile just a bit offcourse? I mean it couldn't be blatent, like a self destruct, but maybe just a premature detonation?

Yeah, but then it could be that your good buddy who you sold all those F-14's too (like, say, oh Iran) gets into a shooting war with you.

You never know what type of equipment your really need to be firing at, so you sure don't want to hamstring yourself.

Ouch out

scJazz · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2003, 10:14:37 AM »

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Originally posted by airbumba
To change this to modern times...
I always wondered when the US sells certain missiles, like say a 'sidewinder' wouldn't it be prudent to install a chip that would make the missile miss it's target if it were fired on an American plane?

It would be simple to do, you just need some sort of I.D.ing software that could read the radar profile then send the missile just a bit offcourse? I mean it couldn't be blatent, like a self destruct, but maybe just a premature detonation?

Just wonderin.

Bumba

Not really possible since the interrogation system for IFF (Identify Friend Foe) is located in the launch vehicle not the weapon system itself. The weapon system includes a fuse for detonating the warhead but at this point it doesn't care what the target is just that it reached X distance. This is how we can still manage to whack friendly aircraft with our Pheonix missiles. Dipwad pilot lights up friendly and pulls the trigger. As for putting an interrogation system inside the weapon itself wouldn't work. It would be obvious to Freshman Electrical Engineer student what this bit of stuff is and he would yank it out.