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Offline gofaster

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If North Korea really is going nuclear...
« on: October 03, 2003, 10:15:04 AM »
... it could be a big boost to their military tech level.  It would pose a serious threat to the stability of the region.  I was poking around http://www.globalsecurity.org using "North Korea Air Force" and found this:

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More than 420 fighters, bombers, transport planes, and helicopters were redeployed in October 1995, and more than 100 aircraft were moved forward to the three air bases near the DMZ. More than 20 Il-28 bombers were moved to Taetan which shortened their arrival time to Seoul from 30 minutes to 10 minutes. Over 80 MiG-17s redeployed to Nuchonri and Kuupri are able to attack Seoul in 6 minutes. By these redeployments North Korea intends to make a first strike with outdated MiG-17s and the second strike with mainstay fighters such as MiG-21s and Su-25s.


Can a nuke be strapped to the belly of a MiG-17?  I know our A-4s could carry small nuke warheads.  I assume the MiG-17 has hardpoints for drop tanks and conventional bombs. Anybody know?

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Re: If North Korea really is going nuclear...
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2003, 10:19:39 AM »
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Can a nuke be strapped to the belly of a MiG-17?  I know our A-4s could carry small nuke warheads.  I assume the MiG-17 has hardpoints for drop tanks and conventional bombs. Anybody know?


I'd like to think that North Korea displays at least a minimum level of rationality in that they use any nuclear arsenal as a deterrent to keep America and other regional competitors from engaging them in a conventional war.  If they're actually dumb enough to mount nukes on MiGs and use them against South Korean targets, both the United States and China would probably wipe them off the face of the planet in an ungodly nuclear maelstrom.

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If North Korea really is going nuclear...
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2003, 11:49:48 AM »
Its looking more likely that No.Korea does indeed have a viable program.  If I were So.Korea, I'd be very nervous.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031003/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear_18

This could open the door for Japan to move away from being a self-defense force and towards having a true military capable of being engaged overseas to assist UN nations such as So.Korea and the US.

(edit: Here's a sample of a MiG-17.  Looks like it has 4 hardpoints on the wings and a couple on the fuselage)



And their bombers:

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Re: If North Korea really is going nuclear...
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 11:53:20 AM »
gofaster: Can a nuke be strapped to the belly of a MiG-17?  I know our A-4s could carry small nuke warheads.  I assume the MiG-17 has hardpoints for drop tanks and conventional bombs. Anybody know?

 They have a highly developed missile technology.

 They do not really have to nuke South Korea - the 6 million population of the SK capital is withing a range of 12,000 of the NK artillery pieces. They could wipe it out in a matter of seconds.

 They could kill few million japanese and cause death of half a billion chinese with a handfull of well-placed nukes, whatever happens to them after launch.

 They could certainly keep US fleets off their coasts.


Dead Man Flying: I'd like to think that North Korea displays at least a minimum level of rationality in that they use any nuclear arsenal as a deterrent to keep America and other regional competitors from engaging them in a conventional war.

 I believe they are quite rational. They justrealised - maybe even in time - that the Non-Proliferation Treaty (which promises defence to a non-nuclear country in case of an attack by a nuclear country abiding to the IAEC regulations) is worthless after Israeli's 81 bombing of an IAEC-monitored reactor and US invasion of Iraq.

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 01:11:10 PM »
Thats why I recommend a pre-emptive nuclear strike against NKorea, Russia, China and Arkansas :rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 01:25:09 PM »
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Thats why I recommend a pre-emptive nuclear strike against NKorea, Russia, China and Arkansas :rolleyes:


LMAO, good one Yeager!
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Re: Re: If North Korea really is going nuclear...
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2003, 01:26:20 PM »
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 I believe they are quite rational. They justrealised - maybe even in time - that the Non-Proliferation Treaty (which promises defence to a non-nuclear country in case of an attack by a nuclear country abiding to the IAEC regulations) is worthless after Israeli's 81 bombing of an IAEC-monitored reactor and US invasion of Iraq.


The NPT is only enforcable regarding Parties to the treaty, of which Israel is (surprise) not among.  

I was unable to locate the article dealing with this Miko, can you point me in the right direction?

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