Author Topic: A Whine has been recorded...  (Read 3738 times)

Offline Shane

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7630
hey beet1e
« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2003, 02:51:57 PM »
the horror!!

Surrounded by suck and underwhelmed with mediocrity.
I'm always right, it just takes some poepl longer to come to that realization than others.
I'm not perfect, but I am closer to it than you are.
"...vox populi, vox dei..."  ~Alcuin ca. 798
Truth doesn't need exaggeration.

Offline muckmaw

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3874
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #166 on: October 09, 2003, 03:15:52 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying


It accelerates marginally more slowly than the F6F at just about all altitudes.  As far as speed goes, the Ki-61 goes roughly the same speed as the F6F (slightly slower under 5k without WEP; slightly faster from 5-15k without WEP; virtually indistinguishable between 5-15k with either one using WEP).  The Ki-61 does not climb well however.  It climbs as well with WEP as the F6F does without it.

It bleeds E well in turns, allowing for snapshot opportunities.  If you connect with those guns, you'll cause some harm.

 

I consider it a pretty well-rounded if not underrated fighter.  I've dueled NathBDP F6F vs. Ki-61 (we switched who flew what each round), and the duels came out even.  Neither seemed particularly better than the other in a scissoring fight.

-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]


So aside from the cannon, the only real difference between the 2 planes is the paint job, huh.

Well, that comforting. I'll fly it like an F6F which I'm well accustomed too.

So far, I've had more success with the P-40e than the ki61 but I've only flown a few sorties.

Offline Dead Man Flying

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6301
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #167 on: October 09, 2003, 03:31:35 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by muckmaw
So aside from the cannon, the only real difference between the 2 planes is the paint job, huh.


There are subtle differences that distinguish the two planes.  The F6F has very nice high speed handling and rolls better fast.  The Ki-61 rolls better when slow.  Both have different levels of flaps responsiveness.  Both perform a bit differently in the vertical and at very slow speeds.  Etc. etc.  

Think of the difference more like the differences between the N1K and the Spit IX.  They certainly handle differently and feel different, but they're also very similar overall.  And if the N1K is the Japanese Spit IX, then the Ki-61 is the Japanese F6F (minus the carrier takeoff alas).

-- Todd/Leviathn

Offline Toad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18415
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #168 on: October 09, 2003, 04:45:54 PM »
I experimented with the red to see if it was faster than snipping quotes in and out. Isn't. Fixed the image. Should have clipped those first ones but I was in a hurry.

Here, let me help you with this simple concept. It's TOO easy to get kills in the C model for some and thus they don't find it too interesting or habit forming. Me for one.

I hadn't really done much with it in a long time and jumping back in took just a little adjustement. I didn't fly it long because it just isn't real challenging if you're willing to stick to B&Z and if you can shoot halfway decently. Ran out of gas long before the ammo. I'm not a B&Z guy, so I just found it boring; executions rather than fights.

If you still find it a challenge.. well, good for you.

I think you'll find you get a lot of assists with the -1, especially if you mix it up down in the mud, the blood and the beer. I suppose though, you'll carefully B&Z in it. I can't really comment on how that'll be because I don't do that.

If you do mix it up, you'll find you have to win, because a whole lot of stuff can run you down from behind. And you sure won't outclimb many. The only way you get out of most fights is to kill the other guy. A charming feature, IMO.

Still, after a short while, when you go back to the C, you'll probably think.. "man.. this is so EEEEEEE ZEEEEE.


But you'll probably remain in self-denial that your just one of the "EZ mode guys" you seem to despise.

Oh.. wait... you pay perks to fly EZ mode, so it's OK then.



:rofl
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Offline Toad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18415
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #169 on: October 09, 2003, 04:51:44 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by oboe
Who can ask for this nicely?


Pick up the phone and call Pyro. After AH2 debuts I think.


You need someone that really cares to make the case.. that'd be you.

I think though, it's the best solution put forward so far. Simply because it doesn't try to force someone else's  opinion on a paying player. It makes flying "lesser" planes more attractive (I guess.. you have to want perks ) but it makes that a personal choice.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Offline beet1e

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7848
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #170 on: October 09, 2003, 05:00:53 PM »
Muhaha Mr. Toad!

Glad everything is OK. :D

And now, back to the MA to learn that F4U-1 - I note your advice, tnx...

Offline Furious

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3243
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #171 on: October 09, 2003, 05:05:32 PM »
Tigers and Mako's are pretty cool, but nothing beats a Great White.

It would be cool if there were a larger variety of sharks, though.

Offline Shane

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7630
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #172 on: October 09, 2003, 05:47:32 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Furious
Tigers and Mako's are pretty cool, but nothing beats a Great White.

It would be cool if there were a larger variety of sharks, though.


but them whale sharks are overmodeled and ruin it for all the little plankton.
Surrounded by suck and underwhelmed with mediocrity.
I'm always right, it just takes some poepl longer to come to that realization than others.
I'm not perfect, but I am closer to it than you are.
"...vox populi, vox dei..."  ~Alcuin ca. 798
Truth doesn't need exaggeration.

Offline Rutilant

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1352
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #173 on: October 09, 2003, 06:02:47 PM »
This is the greatest flame thread ever... not locked.

Offline Furious

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3243
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #174 on: October 09, 2003, 06:04:03 PM »
While it is true that a Whale Shark is huge, it is also very slow and not very maneuverable.  Easy pickens.

What bothers me about the uber White Sharks is that sometimes when there is a nice feeding frenzy going on, with all the Blues spinning around in little circles, the Nurse sharks feeding off the bottom and the Mako's zooming in and out, generally all having a great time, a Great White will come along and scare all the little fishes away.  Bastards.


I wish there were'nt so many Great Whites.

Offline Rutilant

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1352
A Whine has been recorded...
« Reply #175 on: October 09, 2003, 06:07:53 PM »
Perk the Great White! No, don't because according to some of the lesser minds here perking doesnt make a difference about anything while at the same time they limit usage.

I think i should say it now.

Toad Is A Hypocrit.