A Whine has been recorded...

[beet1e]

Originally posted by muckmaw
Im in this game for a challenge, not to club baby seals and declare myself master of the universe.

... and that's the difference between you and that huge swathe of tardz. I'm right with you, MuckMAW. If you're wanting to fly a midwar plane, it sucks to get cherrypicked or chased down by late war monsters.  

Oboe -

you put those words in his mouth so you could shoot him down with your pat argument.

Hehe, I see you've noticed the pattern in Mr. Toad's posts.

[drone]

kills in
B-17G/  3
B-26B/  19
Bf109G-10/   6
c.202/   15
F4U-1C/  12
FM2/  29
JU-88/  4
 Ships gunner/   25 hehehehe
Typhoon IB/   13 --really really really hate this plane


Model type Killed By Died In
A-20G 0 2
A6M2 0 0
A6M5b 0 0
Ar 234 0 0
B-17G 0 1
B-26B 1 11
B5N2 0 0
Bf 109E-4 0 0
Bf 109F-4 0 0
Bf 109G-10 2 2
Bf 109G-2 0 0
Bf 109G-6 0 0
Bf 110C-4b 0 0
Bf 110G-2 0 0
Boston III 0 0
C-47A 0 1
C.202 0 4
C.205 0 0
Chute 0 0
D3A1 0 0
F4F-4 0 0
F4U-1 0 0
F4U-1C 1 6
F4U-1D 9 0
F4U-4 0 0
F6F-5 2 0
FM2 2 19
Fw 190A-5 2 0
Fw 190A-8 4 0
Fw 190D-9 1 0
Fw 190F-8 0 0
Gunner 0 0
Hurricane IIC 1 0
Hurricane IID 0 0
Hurricane Mk I 0 0
Il-2 0 0
Ju 87D-3 0 0
Ju 88 0 14
Ki-61 1 0
Ki-67 0 0
La-5FN 2 3
La-7 10 0
Lancaster III 0 4
LVTA2 0 1
LVTA4 0 0
M-16 2 0
M-3 0 0
M-8 0 0
Me 163B 0 0
Me 262 0 0
Mosquito Mk VI 2 1
N1K2 5 0
Ostwind 2 1
P-38L 2 5
P-40B 0 0
P-40E 0 0
P-47-D25 0 0
P-47-D30 0 0
P-47D-11 0 0
P-51B 0 0
P-51D 3 0
Panzer IV H 3 0
PT Boat 2 0
SBD-5 0 0
SeaFire 1 1
Ship Gunner 9 0
Spitfire Mk I 0 0
Spitfire Mk IX 5 1
Spitfire Mk XIV 0 0
Spitfire V 1 0
Ta 152H 0 0
TBM-3 0 0
Tempest 1 0
Tiger I 1 0
Typhoon IB 3 3
Yak-9T 0 0
Yak-9U 0 0

best fight I have had in this tour was everything when I was flying a 202  

so learn to fight em all in the worst plane you can find

[Twist]

I select a ride based on the mission, then when things are slow I pick something new and give it a whirl.

It would be nice to have some form of separation between early and late war aircraft. How would you do that? CT?

MA is a free-for-all in every way. Always has been always will be, or will it?

[hogenbor]

[/quote] so learn to fight em all in the worst plane you can find[/unquote]

That I like. Have a soft spot for mid war 'perk farmers', planes with some obvious disadvantages but advantages too, one of which might be that no-one takes them very seriously. Oh, I never USE the perks, I just collect them

Fly 109's now, easy to fly but damn hard to fight in (at least for me).

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by straffo


Finaly if you want diversity in the main : show us that you really want diversity and change your own ride you will perhaps start a new trend in the main ...

You want me to change my ride? I already fly a plane that's pretty unusual, but I'll make a change if it will help.

I can go from an F6F to an FM2 or a P-47.

Wait, does it count if I change my ride from the F6 to a p-51?

[straffo]

not exactly

But it seems you want the other to change their own no ?

Change for a non US plane for exemple the G10 it change almost completly the game, for instance I switched some months ago from typhoon to D9 now I switched back it's again different.

[Toad]

Oboe,

I assume you want to "perk" the aircraft of which you "see too many"?

Shall we all vote monthly? Shall we go by plane kills per tour? Perhaps the famous "rolling planeset"?

Again, the basic underlying argument is "other people don't fly what I want them to fly. Let's find a way to make them fly stuff we want them to fly".

Now one can cloak this in "we need more diversity" or "we're not using all of the rich planeset". But it's still merely an attempt to force someone out of the planes they like merely because the supplicant wants THE OTHER GUY to fly a different plane.

None of the dreaded "Big 5" is an incredible, overwhelming killing machine that can't be bested. Everyone one of them has it's weak point or points. In fact, in Mini's Tour 41 stats (latest I found in a quick search), NONE of the "Big 5" is in the top 18 slots for K/D.

So once again we have folks lamenting that we don't use our rich full planeset as much as we should. Obviously, HT doesn't see Perking based on MA usage as something that needs to be done. As you point out, this stuff is brought up repetitively by folks that want to limit other peoples opportunities to fly the plane of their choice... and don't kid yourself or hide behind imagined noble purpose, that's exactly what is being proposed.... and HT routinely fails to act.

Maybe he's thinking.. "you want diversity of aircraft? The CT routinely features lesser-used aircraft in quasi-historical matchups. There's scenarios that do the same thing, not to mention Snapshots. And, of course there's the DA, a place where the lamenters can go and fly little used, diverse aircraft against one another all night long, to their hearts content, without bothering anyone else."

Funny to see that the lamenters "never said we wanted to dictate which planes people should fly" but almost always include an allusion to making them fly something else like "There is already a proven way in the game to encourage variety without "dictating" which aircraft people should fly."

LOL! We don't want to dictate what you fly, but we da n sure want to push you out of the Big 5 until you get enough perks to fly one.

You guys are too funny.

[LePaul]

LOL

Muck, yer in denial.

Or a severe case of Shatner Syndrome < Clenches fist....maxiumu drama... "Fire!"... >

You're all wound up about what everyone else flies    Its one thing to make an observation.  Another to insist they play to your standards.

Toad has ya pegged  

[lazs2]

I don't care what plane someone flys so long as they will fight..  The LW panes are just boring to see in the arena as are the typhies and 51's ....  Rather see all spits than a variety of the previously mentioned planes..

I like to fly the Yak once in a while.   I am too poor a shot to make it work for me tho.
lazs

[Kweassa]

So support my NPA.

 3~8 points for late war monstrosities.

[muckmaw]

Toad, lePaul..

Neither of you 2 know me, so please don't speculate as to my motivations for bringing up this topic.

Oboe said it best.

To me, it's a waste of a plane set to have whatever it is..50 different planes, and all I ever see out my canopy is the same 5.

Is that so hard to understand? That's the long and short of my complaint. You guys can scream whatever you want. The bottom line FOR ME is there is not enough diversity of opponents in the MA.

I'm done with this subject.

Someone else carry on.

[straffo]

Muck that why it was answered that the only diversity is the one you can add yourself.

It won't change what you can see but it will change the game for you ,and can be quite a challenge for your ego if you try to survive in the MA in early war ride (at least mine  got hurt each time I up such a fighter

[Toad]

I see absolutely no need to speculate on your motives.

Muckmaw:

This is a thinly cloaked whine, but not one where I expect any changes to come of it.

This is a standard whine, but it seems to apply.

[AKIron]

If all you guys weren't such meanies going around shooting everyone down all the time we might see planes like 202's, 109e4's, and spit 1's in the ma more often. Maybe pony drivers would wave as they pass high over head and wouldn't have to run away. Maybe those luftwaffe pilots would feel more secure in their rides and not have to complain so often.

Imagine no more ho's or whines, it isn't hard if you try. Maybe everyone can live in peace and let those la7's fly.

[gofaster]

We need to see more Ki-61s.  Its a capable aircraft that gets overlooked way too often.  Then again, its got that clown-tail paint job that makes it stand out in a fight.

Maybe that's what I'll fly tonight when I go online.

If you see a Rook Ki-61 at 15k alt, fear it!